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Rally to restore sanity
was actually not all that funny.
Funnier than the actual rally: I participated in a conspiracy to politicize this event a little bit. I made a design for some stickers and some co-conspirators passed out 50,000 of them. It got on TV in the middle of this Sheryl Crow song. (skip to 3:05)
and in a lot of the news articles and photos of the rally.
Here is one on a cute dog that Reuters ran.
I think it is rad just to sneak some more images of young people who are STOKED ON VOTING into the MSM. Studies indicates that when people expect turnout to be high, they are more likely to vote. That is why narratives about people being lazy and bummed are self-fullfilling.
Me, i'm stoked! i spent an hour this afternoon phonebanking from home and it was fun!
theballot.org is a good resource if you have weirdo initiatives you don't know about.
Funnier than the actual rally: I participated in a conspiracy to politicize this event a little bit. I made a design for some stickers and some co-conspirators passed out 50,000 of them. It got on TV in the middle of this Sheryl Crow song. (skip to 3:05)
and in a lot of the news articles and photos of the rally.Here is one on a cute dog that Reuters ran.
I think it is rad just to sneak some more images of young people who are STOKED ON VOTING into the MSM. Studies indicates that when people expect turnout to be high, they are more likely to vote. That is why narratives about people being lazy and bummed are self-fullfilling.
Me, i'm stoked! i spent an hour this afternoon phonebanking from home and it was fun!
theballot.org is a good resource if you have weirdo initiatives you don't know about.
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Checking those boxes! Sure, I'll do it
Ozzy Osbourne/Cat Stevens battle of the bands
The Law and Order sound at the end of Sam Waterson's thing
Father Guido Sarducci...
That is cool of Iowa to let you register today!
so guys if you have a few spare hours call.barackobama.com they make it SO EASY for you!
Good job!
I found the rally pretty crappy.
I liked Colbert, but the comedy was mostly bad, the music was bad. It just had a real flat tone to it. I think Jon Stewart is pretty unfunny. He has like 3 funny faces he reverts to. Also, it really undercuts everything he does when anyone criticizes anything he does and he says "I'M JUST A COMEDIAN" but then will deliver serious speeches. If you want to be important, don't cop out to the comedian thing.
remember when he went on hannity and colmes and almost started crying he was so upset? his hands were shaking, he was begging them to just talk like real people, please please, don't go to commercial, PLEASE LISTEN TO ME!!!
it was amazing. Such a heavy moment on broadcast television--NOBODY DOES THAT! It was so real.
That dude in the bowtie needs to shut up.
I also don't think his "i'm just a comedian" thing makes any sense. It's an evasion, and it also lets other people off the hook.
http://exiledonline.com/the-rally-to-restore-vanity-generation-x-celebrates-its-homeric-struggle-against-lameness/
He represents exactly what he is claiming they are: dishonest. He is cloying and refusing to be a comedian (when they asked him why he wasn't being funny) but wants to shame them while evading responsibility for his content. It's really off-putting and treats the viewer as if they were stupid.
The pleading was not about getting them to talk, because he didn't let them talk either, it just seemed about coming on their show and taking over.
If someone came on his show and and pulled this they would be considered and asshole blowhard loon and be mocked mercilessly.
kdawg, is totally right about the power thing as well. In the Rally to Restory Sanity and/or Fear there wasn't a single mention of corporate influence.
I'm all for taking things less seriously, but I don't think Jon Stewart actually does that (specifically as show in the Crossfire video) and I think he uses that when its convenient to him.
On the other hand, I thought Colbert's Congressional hearing appearance this year was an incredible combination of subversive truthfulness and comedic art.
I'm open, I swear!
The Daily Show has amazing moments but mostly I've enjoyed the correspondents (Carrell, Colbert, Rob Riggle, John Oliver, Hodgman, Kristen Schaal, Rob Corddry, Ed Helms, Mo Rocca, Nancy Walls, Matt Walsh, etc.)
I am not even that big of a fan of Jon Stewart. I don't think he is THAT funny and his show pretty much always follows the same template. But I also find him to have at least a little bit more cred than the rest of the people I see on TV. Jon Stewart is an entertainer and he is not pretending to be something else. It is true that he has often blurred the lines between teasing and interviewing, but the way he presents himself going into a conversation tells us he might interrupt to make a joke and stop interviewing at any time. I see entertainers as people who manipulate my emotions so I expect nothing less from them.
Has anyone seen Parker & Spitzer? It's kind of dumb but light years better than Crossfire.
I do think that Jon Stewart has developed his ideas a lot since that crossfire thing. It was almost 6 years ago! Not to say that he doesn't still do some incredible insult humor on his show. In the past couple of years he has gotten pretty good at being disagreeable, but still maintaining a level of fun and respect.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-27-2010/bill-o-reilly
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-17-2010/dick-armey
He just signed off telling everyone to vote! stewart would never do that!
and he showed our stickers again!
then also did a funny thing where he mocked disenchanted progressives for being lazy whiners and threatening not to vote. i love the way his character allows him to tell the truth in a way that is neither sappy nor cynical.
The press correspondents dinner.....there is nothing like it in global history
I would say: this forum would be the IDEAL place for this discussion. UHX has a proud history of being reasonable on being FLAME WAR free. This conversation might not find the time to happen IRL but we have the time in our down moments to make points that we believe in.
Thanks for the links!
Maher's saying it wasn't actually a joint but Margaret Hoover says it smelled like a joint to her. HMMM.
YES!! Stewart is constantly holding up Maddow and Schultz next to Limbaugh and Beck and tarring them with the same brush when there just is no comparison. To pretend there is just so you can come off as a moderate whitewashes how fact-challenged and "truthy" the political right has become.
Yes, the left goes overboard too but it's more like "we didn't take the climate-gate emails seriously enough", or "y'know this whole 'green' thing is mostly a way for giant corps to seem like they give a shit" not "grab your guns n' gold and head to your basement cuz the brown people are coming to KILL YOU!"
However, Colbert is pure 100% un-adulterated genius. I've heard story-after-story about right wingers who loved the show for months before they figured out the joke. And sometimes you don't realize how much you've learned from a Colbert Report until days afterward when you read a news article and spot the slant.
I guess Mikey as a point. Jon Stewart acts like an interviewer or comedian when it suits him. Mainly the way I feel is that I trust none of those TV people. They hardly ever say what I want to hear and if they do they never go all the way. I do see the giant gap between how far the right reaches and how far the left goes. It irritates the shit out of me when neutrality turns into basically withholding important information that should be communicated to the people. The 2004 election was my first real exposure to american media and I was baffled that NPR felt as tough they had to balance every news piece about a nasty trick the Republican party had done with something that may or may not be wrong with the Democrats.
It's nice to be able to say everything you want on the internet. I recently watched Obama's video for Dan Savage's "It Gets Better" project and the comments underneath it were nothing but a never-ending stream of aggression against gay people, african americans, socialists and the usual. If more people read uhx there could be so many jerkwads calling us name and interfering in our legitimate exchanges that it would discourage us from having them.
It is strange that it's a truism of the internet that un-moderated comments will almost always be insanely offensive. What are some exceptions to this rule?
The onion film review comments are sometimes a bit dude-y but always smart and engaged and balanced
I can't think of any other un-moderated high-traffic websites. All the feminist blogs I read are heavily moderated because otherwise they'd be nothing but "BITCHES BE HOS AND SHIT"
I like Stewart but I confess I don't watch his show very much. Also I confess to being much more inspired by/drawn to Colbert. Colbert is a genius of the century, a huge hero to me, on so many levels, not just political but comedical.
I like to argue on uhx but unfortunately I mostly agree with people, except on issues like "cookies: are they boring or not?" and "nobody hates Anna Paquin as much as I do"
I don't think his "but I'm just a comedian" rhetoric is really even about himself inasmuch as it's about shows like crossfire that exist just to stir up hateful, ignorant bullshit attempting to pass themselves off as legitimate news sources.
UHX is a great forum to have heated discussions about debated subjects. Everyone is very respectful here!
GO BACK TO ALASKA WHERE YOU CAME FROM
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Yeah see...
It would be easier for me to be more honest and straightforward and loose on this board if I knew you guys and knew how to read you, and also if I felt you knew how to read me. I think I only learn how to get loose around people in real life. Message boarding and internetting are good compliments to real life for me, but no substitute. Plus I kinda suck at internet communication. The area between my brain and my fingers seems to create all sorts of grammar mistakes, and weird phrasings. Also I am not the smartest of dudes. I pretty much only keep posting here on occasion in long shot hopes of making friends my own age who are into similar things again someday.
I am getting laid on the reg now though so it's not as big of a worry.
^You see! This is a comment that totally depends on inflection and knowing me to be at all funny.
also Mike
why don't you go cry into your pipe and smoke your tears? :)
Jon Stewart appeals to me more than Colbert I think because his thought process is a much better and funnier version of my own. Also I like that he and Colbert are powerfully smart and funny, but also uncomfortable with that power. You can tell power makes them nervous in all the right ways and it seems hard to believe it would ever corrupt them.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_phantom_left_20101031/
That's the significance.
Jon Stewart does news jokes about people in positions of power.
Could be a conflict of interest.
Could not be one.
Stewart does "razz" corporations less than politicians.
CONNECTION!??!
YOU TELL ME.
Or don't.
(I don't actually believe this connection. OR DO I.)
(I do know that Jesus' brother was not named Satan. His brothers name was Todd Christ. He ran a baseball card store that closed down a couple years ago. I think he actually died down in Cabo. Parasailing accident. :( )
When Todd died in the parasailing accident Chris was inconsolable
he howled outside the door to Todd's wood-shop for seven days and seven nights
Until finally
Jesus had to take Chris back to the pound
Remember when Stewart had to basically apologize to Jeremy Scahill for his interview re: Blackwater? Same thing. (though good for him for apologizing).
This is sort of what Hedges means when he says the liberal class has kind of let everyone down.
By and large it was way less funny than The Daily Show. But at least it went after the actual bad guys.