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Neighborly Relations

edited September 2013
This thread is about the highs and lows of neighborhood relations.

I live next to the best next door neighbor! Bought me a trash can when I moved in, brings my cans down when I forget, brought over pies. So legit.

But this post is about what just happened tonight;

One of my neighbors put a large breed dog in the back yard on a short leash in 50 degree weather and took off for the night at around 9pm, resulting in hour-long desperate bark marathon. I show up just behind my previously mentioned awesome neighbor to knock on their door only to discover she has assumed they aren't home, let herself into their backyard and let the dog out. Wow. Ballsy.

So I decide to knock anyway and poor brand-new-roommate is the only guy there and has nothing to do with the dog and claims he just got home (when I ask if he was wearing headphones the past hour). He only knows that the dog is being dog-sat, but also that there are cats inside and doesn't want to let the dog in. So that's sorta a weird combo. "Oh yeah I can totally dogsit! I just need to leash him all night in the backyard in the cold because he can't come inside. Problem solved, let's hit the bar!"

So Clueless Roomie starts frantically texting his new housemates as Awesome-slash-Ballsy Neighbor and I take our leave.

So I wonder if Animal Control would have done anything? Because if no one was home and ASB Neighbor didn't intervene that would have been my next move. Or the po-po.

Oh, this is also the house that has raging campfires that fill the neighboring houses with smoke multiple times per summer. Normally I could care less but this is not your little SE Portland fire pit, more like an attempt to signal their general on Mount Tabor that the advance is coming from the north. (ASB Neighbor spoke to them at least twice about it)

Advice: PortlandMaps will tell information about the owner of a property if the renters are causing an issue. Haven't taken that step yet but already found their landlord on LinkedIn. Mmmm... bad neighbors in the Transparent Society.

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  • edited September 2013
    I am so torn about animal control. On the one hand, I think if the dog owner is BASICALLY a decent human being and not a total jackass, a visit from animal control can be a real wake-up call, and then life is better for the dog and for you, the neighbor. However, a lot of people are non-decent jackasses, and a visit from animal control either makes them take their dog to the pound, or stick their dog in an even worse situation, somehow. Then again, for SOME dogs, going to the pound might be an improvement. Then again, I'm scared to be the one making this call--ideally animal control would make this call but who knows if they do that correctly, etc. etc.

    A couple of times I have done the "if this happens again, I am GOING to call animal control," accompanied by some attempt at education ("this is a puppy and puppies can't be left alone for this long, here is some information about training and age-appropriate expectations") and both times it totally worked and the dog was never an issue again. As a hyper-nervous dog owner who is CONSTANTLY worried that my dog is bothering my neighbors, I can tell you that even I am sometimes not aware that my dog is barking or whatever. It takes a lot of trial and error. Like we finally figured out we have to close the kitchen window when we leave, and then he won't bark. I think a lot of dog owners just get a dog and then basically never think about the dog again, when really it IS more like having a kid, you have to work on issues and creatively problem-solve. Most dogs CAN NOT just sit at home for 8 hours every day--they have to practice and work up to this and that takes time and effort and most people suck and are dumb. This leads to neighborhoods filled with hysterically barking dogs who are so bored/scared/uncomfortable they wish they would die. I HATE IT

    It sounds like you have a great ally in your badass neighbor, and you should make a game plan together and have some sort of mild confrontation with the dipshit neighbors, along the "seriously, this is an animal control issue" lines, scare them a little.

    I'm confused from your post--does the dog belong to the neighbors, or were they just watching it for a friend? If the latter then maybe it just won't come up again.

    GOD

    I get so upset about dog issues. People are horrible

  • Interesting neighbors, FTP! I say LinkIn to that landlord and let him or her know what's up!

    I love my neighbors on the corner- ridiculously nice family that owns the local pizza shop. Twice they've lent me their car when mine wouldn't start in the morning before work. (!!!) Also when Andy cat was hit by a car the husband hosed down the street at 5:30 AM so I wouldn't have to see the blood.

    On the other hand, my bro neighbors next door recently built a deck in their backyard where they spend a lot of time bro-ing out with their bros and their bros and bro-parenting their toddler. Now that the deck is built the neighbor-bros can see right into our yard and they seem to think it's appropriate to talk to us any time we are out there. Just wanting to chat about the weather, gossip from the street, whatever. I'm in my own backyard!! I don't want to talk to bros when I'm trying to read or eat breakfast or weed or shake out rugs in my own backyard!! Front yard: fine. Backyard: leave me alone! (We have a 6ft fence between our houses, fwiw.)
  • Can't a large dog tolerate 50 degree weather? Lots of animals live outside in the cold. I'm genuinely asking.
  • Also, you do not even want me to start getting into my neighbor-tales.
  • The killer was the combo of the short leash + outside. He couldn't even curl up for warmth. Maybe I'm a softie but I wouldn't leave my dog outside in 50 degree weather without a dog house or some sort of bed/shelter unless it was at least a longhair breed. But labs have a decent fat layer so if they are used to living outside they should be fine as long as they can keep out of the wind and rain.

    Yeah YT they were dog-sitting, so hopefully it doesn't happen again. And good point I will use the threat of Animal Control as a warning before I do anything drastic in the future.

    We have other neighbors who's dogs bark from inside their houses down the street semi-often and no big deal. But this dude was outside, very loud and leashed about 25' from our house.
  • I definitely would not call animal control until something like this happened multiple times. My two cents.
  • I volunteer at the Humane Society and I don't think animal control would do anything about this situation, especially if it was only one night. The dogs we get in from animal control/cruelty investigators are coming out of nightmare starvation/beating/cruelty/hoarding situations.
    I think Animal Control would see this less as an abuse situation and more of a careless situation, and they would probably refer you to call it in to the police as a noise disturbance.
  • Well, it's still a good threat at least.
  • dalas -- i'll never forget the basketball neighbor!
  • I think a noise disturbance call would probably have the same effect I was going for with my fantasy animal control visit--Abe you're totally right, animal control has bigger fish to fry than a guy barking for an hour! But the cops might be like "hey, shut this down" and that's all you want.

    If a dog is barking for an hour it means something is wrong. He's scared, he's cold, he's too bored and needs a lifestyle change, he's in a situation where he's constantly hearing/seeing/smelling things he feels he needs to be on guard against, etc. I hate when people say "it's natural for dogs to be outside all day." News flash: dogs don't exist "in nature." WE INVENTED THEM. They definitely do not want to just hang out alone all day long with no idea of what their job is or where their people are. So yeah Dalas, I guess I agree-- I guess I'm not as concerned with 50 degree weather (although, how would you like to be chained up outside naked in 50 degree weather for hours?? Maybe you would like it you PERV) as I am about the nonstop barking.
  • All these years, I've been waiting for basketball neighbor (a boy) to grow up and stop beating up old refrigerator boxes and hitting metal poles over and over again in his back yard. Just last week, I saw him walking down the street, holding hands with a girl. FINALLY!
  • YT, yeah, I guess I was biased by my own fet.
  • I had a weird experience. My neighbor is from a foreign land. My approach is to be charitable to peoples. This individual approaches everyone in bargain (to advantage). To me that's offensive. To that individual, it's normal.
  • reminds me of Hank Hill and his rude Laotian neighbor. "What kind of country am I living in if I can only hate a man if he's white?"

    Jerk is jerk, right? Approaching everyone only looking for personal advantage doesn't seem like a cultural difference, it seems just pretty jerky...I guess it depends on vibe/how it happens...

  • OH JOY! When my noisy neighbors re-sided their garage and took down the basketball hoop attached to it, I was afraid that the days of them playing loud basketball games directly behind my bedroom window were over.

    No worries! They've started construction on a new basketball hoop, and of course this is such an important project that it needs to start at the crack of dawn and somehow takes multiple days to accomplish!
  • every morning that I am awakened a bit too early by the hilarious squawking and mumbling of our neighbors' pleasant chickens I thank our Lord Jesus Christ that that is all I have to worry about
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