"She promised instead to 'feed you beer, hug/high-five you up and down (pick your poison), give you merch, and thank you mightily.' This is a compensation package which, honestly, might be worse than nothing. Depends on the beer."
dismemberment guy going solo and getting a 0.0 on pitchfork, which has been sited in essays i think as the meanest moment of the website's history and the moment the world discovered the power of pitchfork.com to change people's lives for the worse , and now he works for huffington post and is like fuggit and he's happy he's not in the music business any more? i never listened to that band tho. what kind were they?
I constantly hear so much Dismemberment plan gossip these days, guys. I liked them for a semester in college but I don't remember what they sound like.
Also 311 were big innovators in the Music Cruise business. They have done a couple cruises that were very successful which has led lots of other bands and music promoters to go this route (Weezer, Kiss, Coachella).
Ugh, that "Purity Ring" video. "We put her voice thru FX and we have complicated lights." WOW, REAL MEANINGFUL WORK, Y'ALL.
I hate listening to people talk about themselves, like on the worst DVD commentary tracks where they spend the whole time just explaining how brilliant everyone involved is.
My 2012 theme was "Honesty" and my 2013 theme might be "Humility," because everyone is too fucking in love with themselves.
Likely there are many startups in the space of connecting live performances with the interwebs. This one launched last week http://stublisher.com/. They are a platform, so the funds could flow to the artist, or to the promoter, or to?
I interact with a lot of "internet startup" people. Here is my (probably unfairly sweeping) conclusion.
Pitching out corrupts within. This is something Edward Tufte says a lot. I sort of want to believe that dudes like this, with their cute grins and company t-shirts and lapel mics will solve music's revenue problem but all these dudes (they are always dudes) just seem so very far from the lived reality of musicians' actual lives.
I mean, I have talked to people who have generated over a million dollars in VC/startup capital for a concert booking/ticketing widget/app of some sort, but do not know the difference between a booking agent and a talent buyer.
Same way I feel about "social entrepreneurs" and their ability to solve broader social conflicts. Products put forward as something we can turn to to redress power conflicts when actual politics fails us/is too messy/too hard.
Startup culture is fucked for sure. There's no denying that. Right now there is a load of money on the table, which attracts people who will do and be anything to get that cash. Everyone gets wrapped up in the buzzwords and delusion of "we will change the world!" and then they start actually believing it all and that's when they get scary to me.
I really view one of my primary job tasks as keeping people checked in with reality.
can we make a playlist of songs that start ups use in their video promo pieces that are uplifting and of the "we are gonna change the world!" variety so then we can all feel so uplifted
Also, that pandora piece is full of factual errors in the first graf. Donnie McClurkin gets tons of regular commercial airplay on gospel radio. And the "middle class of musicians" is rhetoric stolen directly from my employers.
it's an ideal that's never really been fully realized in this country. The idea was if we break up the media concentration, create healthy sustainable systems of distribution and compensation, etc we could create an ecology where most of our entertainment spending would no longer funneled to a tiny handful of corporations & superstars while the majority of working artists scrape by in relative poverty.
It's pretty standard blue dog democrat rhetoric really. But this Pandora jerkwad is appropriating on behalf of his investors, who want a better return by cutting musicians' pay by 80%+
I guess it's normal in politics! I've just never been in a position where someone would want to appropriate my team's words before! I feel like Leslie Knope. So naive! So in need of waffles!
http://www.economist.com/node/21541707 The Amen Break: Seven seconds of fire How a short burst of [b-side] drumming changed the face of music; royalties never paid. I have always believed that there is some solution to sampling with micropayments and even payments to the sampler if benefit accrues to the original. A reasonable copyright period, say 20 years, is fine with me.
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Grizzly Bear Members Are Indie-Rock Royalty, But What Does That Buy Them in 2012?
http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/grizzly-bear-shields.html
and another similar
Grizzly Bear Are Not Rich
http://stereogum.com/1165101/grizzly-bear-are-not-rich/news/
Something I forgot to tweet last week: WHO HAS HIGHER NET WORTH - @PWELVERUM OR @DAVELONGSTRETH
ALSO WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT
WHO HAS THE NICEST DICK
ETC
REMEMBER DISMEMBERMENT PLAN?
"She promised instead to 'feed you beer, hug/high-five you up and down (pick your poison), give you merch, and thank you mightily.' This is a compensation package which, honestly, might be worse than nothing. Depends on the beer."
PW owns property.
He wins.
And also don't go there.
WHO CAN DO "CROW POSE" FOR LONGER
IF BOTH OWN A HOME, WHICH HOME IS "SWANKIER"
p-dub would take it in ultimate style tho, based on estimated "core strength"
and the moment the world discovered the power of pitchfork.com to change people's lives for the worse , and
now he works for huffington post and is like fuggit and he's happy he's not in the music business any more?
i never listened to that band tho. what kind were they?
EDIT: PLEASE NOTE THIS IS COMMENT #311 IN THIS THREAD.
IN HONOUR OF THIS MOMENTOUS OCCASION, A VIDEO:
I can do "crow pose" for about 20 seconds.
Death Cab = SAT score blues.
wonder what those dudes do for money today
I will buy at least 2 of them and then 311 will make a buck.
They have done a couple cruises that were very successful which has led lots of other bands and music promoters to go this route (Weezer, Kiss, Coachella).
"Parrotheads, Phishheads, Primusmen, Bikini Kill Buddies, Deadhards, Beliebers, Smashmouthwomen, Chris Isaak Fan, regular person, 311ist."
He is funny, like a little clown!
I miss him.
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2012/10/how-indie-finally-officially-died-broken-indie-machine.html
think piece
gotta love the hro re-design! brutal
I hate listening to people talk about themselves, like on the worst DVD commentary tracks where they spend the whole time just explaining how brilliant everyone involved is.
My 2012 theme was "Honesty" and my 2013 theme might be "Humility," because everyone is too fucking in love with themselves.
Now that you mention it.... hating yourself is much cooler.
Pitching out corrupts within. This is something Edward Tufte says a lot. I sort of want to believe that dudes like this, with their cute grins and company t-shirts and lapel mics will solve music's revenue problem but all these dudes (they are always dudes) just seem so very far from the lived reality of musicians' actual lives.
I mean, I have talked to people who have generated over a million dollars in VC/startup capital for a concert booking/ticketing widget/app of some sort, but do not know the difference between a booking agent and a talent buyer.
Same way I feel about "social entrepreneurs" and their ability to solve broader social conflicts. Products put forward as something we can turn to to redress power conflicts when actual politics fails us/is too messy/too hard.
I really view one of my primary job tasks as keeping people checked in with reality.
so then we can all feel so uplifted
http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/archives/2012/10/pandora-and-art.html
;(
What they don't mention is that they're trying to get their users to lobby to cut their payouts by more than 80%.
Shared prosperity! That's the idea.
The Amen Break: Seven seconds of fire
How a short burst of [b-side] drumming changed the face of music; royalties never paid.
I have always believed that there is some solution to sampling with micropayments and even payments to the sampler if benefit accrues to the original. A reasonable copyright period, say 20 years, is fine with me.