Pre-marriage counseling sounds like it could be fun. You can be like "let's learn how to deal with stuff before it happens!" Get some general role playing skills under the belt
Hugh's family is Catholic and so his mom and sister and cousin talked about when they did pre-marriage counseling, it was basically sex-ed for ignorant adults (which they were not). I do not imagine this will be the case cuz our church and denomination is so lefty.
I think it's really practical stuff, like, living wills and that kind of thing, but I do not yet know.
"act of total personality" is a Tillich phrase, indicating that it's not an intellectual thing, or emotional thing or a gut thing or a behavioral thing, but just sort of the totality of how you live. How I love Paul Tillich!
i like "the totality of how you live" that is a heavy thing to think about
I actually kind of like the idea of "religion sucks" being a religious proposition. I'm gonna need to pray on that one.
if your minister tells you about living wills that is awesome.
isn't it crazy to imagine religious pre-marriage counseling for ignorant adults? WOW. Remember how Louis XVI didn't know how babies got made and so the Emperor of Austria had to take a boat across the world to tell him, so that France would have an heir? Then it didn't matter anyway because they chopped his head off
yes! also he may have had a weird birth defect where the tip of his penis was connected in some awkward way by like some skin that kept him from being able to "do his duty." There may have been some sort of 18th century penis surgery on the King of France, which, I wouldn't want to be THAT doctor, right? Monsieur, you REALLY don't want to fuck this one up but yes, the story about the Emperor of Austria is true. He was Marie Antoinette's brother! The family was in jeopardy! Then they had an heir and two daughters I think, and they were all imprisoned and beheaded, even the toddlers and that was the birth of democracy
MAYBE Who can tell? No one knows the contents of another man's heart Maybe amongst all my bluster is belief for example, I recently saw a ghost (joke, it was a werewolf) (joke) no but seriously, if I do go to hell what do you think I should do to try to get out? (powerpoint presentation)
I dunno, you guys, I still believe that anyone using religion or any other system in order to separate us and prevent us from living in harmony is misguided and doing harm to our society. I'm not saying that like "so we should lock them all up," I'm saying it like "so they need to open their doors."
I don't think it's intolerant to say "Hey, you're a human. We're all humans. ONE LOVE."
We will all swallow our cup of corporate poison. We can take it from nurse Romney, who will tell us not to whine and play the victim, or we can take it from nurse Obama, who will assure us that this hurts him even more than it hurts us, but one way or another the corporate hemlock will be shoved down our throats. The choice before us is how it will be administered. Corporate power, no matter who is running the ward after January 2013, is poised to carry out U.S. history’s most savage assault against the poor and the working class, not to mention the Earth’s ecosystem. And no one in power, no matter what the bedside manner, has any intention or ability to stop it.
If you insist on participating in the cash-drenched charade of a two-party democratic election at least be clear about what you are doing. You are, by playing your assigned role as the Democratic or Republican voter in this political theater, giving legitimacy to a corporate agenda that means your own impoverishment and disempowerment.
I think he got off the liberal train a few years ago. He's now a condescending revolutionary socialist.
I still admire the row he hoes though, and he's got the brimstone poetics down. I was fascinated by the spectacle of his attack on 'The Black Bloc'. He debated a representative of CrimethInc a couple of weeks ago over that matter. Quite an interesting discussion.
I am also very grateful for his recent lawsuit against certain surveillance provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act. His team won in the first tier of federal court and are their way to Court of Appeals.
Kind of a pompous ass, but a really gifted one with a lot of integrity.
My hero of radical letters right now, one of them anyway, is McKenzie Wark, Media Prof I think, at NYU. Wrote some brilliant short pieces about Occupy. Occupy also connected me to the work of Penny Red, young writer for The Guardian and other journals. Also lately I've been impressed by Moe Tkacik. Great business writer, like if Matt Taibbi were feminist.
The thing I like about all these others is that they make me laugh. Hedges just burns.
Back from Wiki. Minister's son. Presbyterian. Graduated from Harvard Divinity school.
Followed a book hostile to right-wing fundamentalists called, AMERICAN FASCISTS, with a book hostile to "The New Atheists" (Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, et al) called, I DON'T BELIEVE IN ATHEISTS. He found many parallels between these two groups.
Interesting 2008 interview about these projects in Salon here.
From The Progressive last year. Transition out of religion, in and then out of The New York Times, and beyond liberalism...
Q: How did you make the transition from Harvard Divinity School to The New York Times?
Chris Hedges: It wasn’t a direct route. I began as a freelance reporter. That’s an important distinction, because people who rise through the ranks of The New York Times become vetted, conditioned, harassed, and shaped by the institution. That never happened to me.
In my second year of Harvard Divinity School, where I was studying to be a minister like my father, I met a guy named Robert Cox, who had been the editor of the Buenos Aires Herald during the Dirty War in Argentina. Bob used to print the names of those who had been disappeared the day before, above the fold in his newspaper. It was a kind of an awakening to me to see what great journalism can and should do.
I went off to Latin America at a time when there were horrible regimes. Pinochet was in Chile, the junta was in Argentina, the death squads in El Salvador were killing between 700 and 1,000 people a month, Ríos Montt was in Guatemala. So that was my transition into journalism from a seminarian who grew up in a household that was active in social justice. Those are my roots. And those roots led to a conflict with The New York Times.
Q: When did you start noticing problems there?
Hedges: embed. We all were forced to sign documents by the military when we got off the plane saying that we would, in essence, be servants of the military. The paper reduced us to little more than propagandists. The next day, I just threw the paper in the trash and went out on my own and started writing stories.
It pleased the Times, because they were getting stuff that was outside of the pool and outside the approved stories that were managed and controlled by the military. But it really angered the other reporters who were there, who had been good little boys and girls and done what the military had told them. So they actually wrote a letter to the foreign editor saying that because of my defiance of the rules, I was ruining our relationship with the military. I’m not a careerist; I never really gave a damn about my career, and I thought that was the end. But R. W. Apple, who was running the coverage at the time, interceded on my behalf, and, in fact, when he found out about the letter, called all the reporters in and dressed them down. Apple had covered Vietnam. He said, “You know, we don’t work for the U.S. military.”
The New York Times is an institution that attracts careerists, who are drawn to power and access. This gave me a kind of a free hand. The kind of work that I wanted to do, most of the other reporters didn’t want to do. I was not doing lunch. I was not sucking up to officials. I was writing from the street. I constantly volunteered to go to Gaza, and the other reporters had no interest in going to Gaza. I volunteered to go to Sarajevo. And when I did, the then-executive editor, Joseph Lelyveld, said, “Well, I guess the line starts and ends with you.”
My clash with the paper happened when I came back. I had written War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, so I was on programs like Charlie Rose. And because I had been the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times, I would be asked about the impending invasion of Iraq, and I denounced it quite strongly.
Q: You gave the commencement address at a college in Illinois two months after Bush launched the Iraq War. That rubbed the editors in New York the wrong way. Why?
Hedges:[pt?] of the whole talk with what people shouted in brackets. The Times editors were pressured to respond, and they responded by calling me into the office and giving me a formal written reprimand for impugning the impartiality of The New York Times. We were members of the Newspaper Guild, and the process is that you give the employee a written warning and then, under Guild rules, the next time the employee violates that warning, you can fire them. So once I was handed that written warning, it was terminal, because I wasn’t about to stop speaking out against the Iraq War. I approached Hamilton Fish at the Nation Institute about becoming a senior fellow there and leaving the Times. I did leave the Times; I wasn’t fired. But if I had stayed long enough, I would have been fired. That was inevitable.
Wark: This is what caught my eye. Just over a year ago, inside of two weeks after the stuff in NYC began. Then his book about the situationists came out. I follow his fb page and he makes me laugh a lot.
BTW, tax code simplification=opportunity for congresspeeps to reap a ton of campaign cash for protecting/promoting/repurposing tax treatment. Unlikely to benefit anyone we know.
I am one of those horrible people who doesn't realize her voter registration is not correct and accepted and all of that until right before the election. My application was just denied because I live in this cool, funky space we call the boathouse, which is not technically a "residence."
Just how bad would it be for me to put down someone else's address in Portland (any takers?) as my residence? I count! I just live in a funky space!
The legal (and probably best) way to do this is to just call the elections people and explain this to them. They're not the zoning cops, they don't give a damn if you're living in a place that is not technically a residence. They just flag that because it reads to them like an error in your application.
Caught this dude on KBOO, the HoPo of Portland. He have this talk after his KBOO talk in Portland: starts slow, occasionally irritating, worth listening. Disqualifying voters (who might vote against you) is the new game.
Palast is one of these voices that is right on the facts, on the right side of history, has the right enemies, makes a strong case, good analytical mind... but operates in such an air of pissy bitterness and combative condescension that many folks, even fellow travelers, just want to tune him out.
DrJ, agreed! Done activist stuff, it is a delicate judgement on including/ excluding/ acknowledging peeps like that dude. I've done it successfully. Figuring it out is Occupy's great challenge.
Nonetheless he summarizes some serious stuff on voter registration, deregistration and registration denial.
I'm totally with you too on articulating climate issues as an example.
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WHAT WILL YOU LEARN????? pass it on!
sorry for dumping on your people
i can't imagine if this was a thread about how fucking stupid vegetarians are. I'd totally cry
now i feel awful
Jesus was cool
"Religion sucks", is a religious proposition.
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sorry. kinda cool. Just sayin'. And then I was like, "No! Right?" And then I was like, "Whatever." Just sayin'.
Hugh's family is Catholic and so his mom and sister and cousin talked about when they did pre-marriage counseling, it was basically sex-ed for ignorant adults (which they were not). I do not imagine this will be the case cuz our church and denomination is so lefty.
I think it's really practical stuff, like, living wills and that kind of thing, but I do not yet know.
"act of total personality" is a Tillich phrase, indicating that it's not an intellectual thing, or emotional thing or a gut thing or a behavioral thing, but just sort of the totality of how you live. How I love Paul Tillich!
that is a heavy thing to think about
I actually kind of like the idea of "religion sucks" being a religious proposition. I'm gonna need to pray on that one.
if your minister tells you about living wills that is awesome.
isn't it crazy to imagine religious pre-marriage counseling for ignorant adults? WOW. Remember how Louis XVI didn't know how babies got made and so the Emperor of Austria had to take a boat across the world to tell him, so that France would have an heir? Then it didn't matter anyway because they chopped his head off
that's sex ed for you
BTW, Pre-marriage counseling beats post-marriage counseling..... by a landslide!
also he may have had a weird birth defect where the tip of his penis was connected in some awkward way by like some skin that kept him from being able to "do his duty." There may have been some sort of 18th century penis surgery on the King of France, which, I wouldn't want to be THAT doctor, right? Monsieur, you REALLY don't want to fuck this one up
but yes, the story about the Emperor of Austria is true. He was Marie Antoinette's brother! The family was in jeopardy!
Then they had an heir and two daughters I think, and they were all imprisoned and beheaded, even the toddlers
and that was the birth of democracy
(joke)
Who can tell? No one knows the contents of another man's heart
Maybe amongst all my bluster is belief
for example, I recently saw a ghost
(joke, it was a werewolf)
(joke)
no but seriously, if I do go to hell what do you think I should do to try to get out?
(powerpoint presentation)
he turned her bod
from a chocolate malt
into a pillar of salt
I don't think it's intolerant to say "Hey, you're a human. We're all humans. ONE LOVE."
still, an awful lot of them do, so there's that.
would you rather be married to a raving Baptist maniac or Mitt Romney
actually kind of a good question
Mitt would treat me right, but come on. SRSLY.
By Chris Hedges
We will all swallow our cup of corporate poison. We can take it from nurse Romney, who will tell us not to whine and play the victim, or we can take it from nurse Obama, who will assure us that this hurts him even more than it hurts us, but one way or another the corporate hemlock will be shoved down our throats. The choice before us is how it will be administered. Corporate power, no matter who is running the ward after January 2013, is poised to carry out U.S. history’s most savage assault against the poor and the working class, not to mention the Earth’s ecosystem. And no one in power, no matter what the bedside manner, has any intention or ability to stop it.
If you insist on participating in the cash-drenched charade of a two-party democratic election at least be clear about what you are doing. You are, by playing your assigned role as the Democratic or Republican voter in this political theater, giving legitimacy to a corporate agenda that means your own impoverishment and disempowerment.
Politics is a strong and slow boring of hard boards.
Civil disobedience is good, too, but it's not an either/or. Fuck shit up, do yr protest vote if you're not in a swing state, it's all good.
I still admire the row he hoes though, and he's got the brimstone poetics down. I was fascinated by the spectacle of his attack on 'The Black Bloc'. He debated a representative of CrimethInc a couple of weeks ago over that matter. Quite an interesting discussion.
I am also very grateful for his recent lawsuit against certain surveillance provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act. His team won in the first tier of federal court and are their way to Court of Appeals.
Kind of a pompous ass, but a really gifted one with a lot of integrity.
My hero of radical letters right now, one of them anyway, is McKenzie Wark, Media Prof I think, at NYU. Wrote some brilliant short pieces about Occupy. Occupy also connected me to the work of Penny Red, young writer for The Guardian and other journals. Also lately I've been impressed by Moe Tkacik. Great business writer, like if Matt Taibbi were feminist.
The thing I like about all these others is that they make me laugh. Hedges just burns.
Followed a book hostile to right-wing fundamentalists called, AMERICAN FASCISTS, with a book hostile to "The New Atheists" (Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, et al) called, I DON'T BELIEVE IN ATHEISTS. He found many parallels between these two groups.
Interesting 2008 interview about these projects in Salon here.
From The Progressive last year. Transition out of religion, in and then out of The New York Times, and beyond liberalism...
Wark's Occupy stuff on the Versobooks.com site is real good. (Great reading site.)
I've dug everything I've seen of Moe Tkacik. Google Moe or Maureen.
Tkacik on Adderrall.
From http://www.thegregorybrothers.com/
BTW, tax code simplification=opportunity for congresspeeps to reap a ton of campaign cash for protecting/promoting/repurposing tax treatment. Unlikely to benefit anyone we know.
I need illegal help, stat.
I am one of those horrible people who doesn't realize her voter registration is not correct and accepted and all of that until right before the election. My application was just denied because I live in this cool, funky space we call the boathouse, which is not technically a "residence."
Just how bad would it be for me to put down someone else's address in Portland (any takers?) as my residence? I count! I just live in a funky space!
Call 'em up. They're nice. 503-988-3720.
[It is so hard to care about the American Left.
Sadface.]
Nonetheless he summarizes some serious stuff on voter registration, deregistration and registration denial.
I'm totally with you too on articulating climate issues as an example.