I swear I would've said Chihuly if you hadn't said it first his "work" is shown in art museums thus he must stand up and face the sin of not being an artist
But still somebody like Damien Hirst, is he not a contender? Jeff Koons? Those guys are pieces of shit
Chihuly has a big ego which is irritating. And I'm suspicious of too much beauty in art. But his ego made the entire art glass ecosystem in the Northwest. If you get a chance to visit Pilchuck sometime, do. It's an all-glass Caldera.
Also a friend was a minor assistant to him a while back. Individual picked up Chihuly visitors and got them around town. Friend lived in the cheapest apartment imaginable in the worst part of Seattle and made a meager living working with disabled children, but was well paid for occasional work for the artist and was gifted by Chihuly with glass pieces which were stored against breaking in the bathtub which was in the one room apartment.
I really like Jeff Koons and Damian Hirst and Donald Judd.
When I first saw the porcelain Michael Jackson and Bubbles piece (I think at SFMoMA with zin?) it was the first time I really loved a piece of art and did not want to own it. That was a big deal for me.
Koons and Hirst both make art with a high "fuckwithery quotient". That's something I like very much.
I kind of like Hirst, I think he is a heavier than Koons. A friend knew him very early. Hirst visited her and then husband, who was a physician. He was having heavy substance abuse problems at the time. Friend ended up inspiring his work based on the visual of medicine cabinets in their home.
it brings up interesting issues of taste v. talent v. skill
some people are highly technically skilled but have terrible taste, and it is such a weird conundrum. Why would God bestow talent but not taste on an individual?
not exactly the same issue because Mozart has both talent and taste, and so does Salieri, it's just Mozart has more verve. But my point is nobody wants to be Salieri
"The Los Angeles Times has reported that some of Kinkade's former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work say that he had a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers. The Times further reported that he openly groped a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana, sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination, once relieving himself on a Winnie the Pooh figure at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim while saying "This one's for you, Walt."[37][38]"
kinkade's paintings are the work of someone who refuses to engage critically and honestly and in a spirit of intellectual curiosity with himself or with the world around him and for that reason I feel no compunctions in saying it is not really art. I'm sorry he was sad, but get in line buddy
feeling like my comment is harsh; i don't know about his interior struggle or lack thereof re: critical thinking. It's possible he was engaging with something interesting in his paintings that we are missing.
I don't like how his paintings look. I don't like how his paintings make me feel. His paintings offer up nothing in terms of questions raised. They are overly simplistic representations of a world without problems, which is uninteresting art to me. They feel like Disney art minus the storytelling (Disney even admits that there are villains in the world).
I don't like how he tries to tie in Biblical verses with his mountain hobbit home art. I don't like that he gave all of his 4 children the middle name "Christian" because he considers himself a devout Christian.
I don't like his business practice. I think having (literally) hundreds of chain store "galleries" in malls across the country trying to present this THIS IS THE TRUE ART to blue collar folk is a big bummer. Probably a pretty bad place for art commerce to happen. I dislike his Warholian practices of having other people make art that he signed but without any of the Warhol ideas behind that. For one thing Warhol made his art about that and screen printing and photography lend themselves to that kind of production. Kinkade's style of soft touch paintings in NO WAY lend themselves to having any authenticity if being produced by others.
I don't like that he tried to sell America (and he was very successful at it) on this perfect world art while he was out groping women and accumulating DUIs like they were baseball cards.
I don't like how there is a cozy home in all his paintings. I also find it troubling that at his peak of power there were communities / housing developments that Thomas Kinkade communities trying to sell "simpler times" and how they are just suburban subdivisions exactly like the next. The disconnect between the sales pitch and the reality is so dark.
He feels like the ultimate huckster. And he's a groper.
also I'm pretty fascinated by Kinkade and was pretty excited today to find out there is a semi autobiographical MOVIE about him that his company was involved in making starring Marcia Gay Harden and Peter O Toole called The Christmas Cottage and Chris Elliott plays and small role and I can't wait to watch it.
I mean it's not "art" in any sense of the word. It's shit that you imagine a machine mass-producing for a corporation that sells things for hotel chains to hang on their wall. It's the Starbucks pod-coffee of art. They aren't, like, "paintings" in the tradition of Picasso or something. I would call them "mass produced kitsch decoration for the tasteless bourgeois" if I had to put them in a category. UBS's Warhol/not Warhol calls are devastating--I feel like Kinkade's paintings are the actual thing Warhol's entire oeuvre was actually a pointed statement on, but Kinkade doesn't realize it. Each one of his works represents the visualization of consumer capitalism. It is horrible.
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his "work" is shown in art museums thus he must stand up and face the sin of not being an artist
But still somebody like Damien Hirst, is he not a contender? Jeff Koons? Those guys are pieces of shit
plus he has an eye patch!
there i said it
Also a friend was a minor assistant to him a while back. Individual picked up Chihuly visitors and got them around town. Friend lived in the cheapest apartment imaginable in the worst part of Seattle and made a meager living working with disabled children, but was well paid for occasional work for the artist and was gifted by Chihuly with glass pieces which were stored against breaking in the bathtub which was in the one room apartment.
My worst is Jeff Koons.
Recent news Portlander dated Basquiat.
When I first saw the porcelain Michael Jackson and Bubbles piece (I think at SFMoMA with zin?) it was the first time I really loved a piece of art and did not want to own it. That was a big deal for me.
Koons and Hirst both make art with a high "fuckwithery quotient". That's something I like very much.
Cause there is some bullshit "internet art" for sure.
"Damian Hirst, Damian Hirst, of all the artists he is maybe the worst"
http://comicsalliance.com/shia-lebeouf-comic-book/
Eugenides
Chihuly
The famous puppet master who is John Cusack's nemesis in Being John Malkovich
ha ha ha
Can you imagine?
That's a Jake Fogelnest joke.
What a gem.
RIP Painter of Light
People are trying their best! Some people's best is just so shitty. Ugh. Bummed.
some people are highly technically skilled but have terrible taste, and it is such a weird conundrum. Why would God bestow talent but not taste on an individual?
not exactly the same issue because Mozart has both talent and taste, and so does Salieri, it's just Mozart has more verve. But my point is nobody wants to be Salieri
"the rest is just the same, isn't it?"
But now I'm disappointed in him AND me. Stupid FEELINGS. Ugh.
"The Los Angeles Times has reported that some of Kinkade's former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work say that he had a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers. The Times further reported that he openly groped a woman's breasts at a South Bend, Indiana, sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination, once relieving himself on a Winnie the Pooh figure at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim while saying "This one's for you, Walt."[37][38]"
He tried to turn visual art into McDonalds.
Just a sensitive MONDAY.
wouldn't that be awesome
I don't like how his paintings look.
I don't like how his paintings make me feel.
His paintings offer up nothing in terms of questions raised. They are overly simplistic representations of a world without problems, which is uninteresting art to me.
They feel like Disney art minus the storytelling (Disney even admits that there are villains in the world).
I don't like how he tries to tie in Biblical verses with his mountain hobbit home art.
I don't like that he gave all of his 4 children the middle name "Christian" because he considers himself a devout Christian.
I don't like his business practice.
I think having (literally) hundreds of chain store "galleries" in malls across the country trying to present this THIS IS THE TRUE ART to blue collar folk is a big bummer. Probably a pretty bad place for art commerce to happen.
I dislike his Warholian practices of having other people make art that he signed but without any of the Warhol ideas behind that. For one thing Warhol made his art about that and screen printing and photography lend themselves to that kind of production. Kinkade's style of soft touch paintings in NO WAY lend themselves to having any authenticity if being produced by others.
I don't like that he tried to sell America (and he was very successful at it) on this perfect world art while he was out groping women and accumulating DUIs like they were baseball cards.
I don't like how there is a cozy home in all his paintings. I also find it troubling that at his peak of power there were communities / housing developments that Thomas Kinkade communities trying to sell "simpler times" and how they are just suburban subdivisions exactly like the next. The disconnect between the sales pitch and the reality is so dark.
He feels like the ultimate huckster.
And he's a groper.
and yeah, UBS' comment nailed Kinkade
I mean it's not "art" in any sense of the word. It's shit that you imagine a machine mass-producing for a corporation that sells things for hotel chains to hang on their wall. It's the Starbucks pod-coffee of art. They aren't, like, "paintings" in the tradition of Picasso or something. I would call them "mass produced kitsch decoration for the tasteless bourgeois" if I had to put them in a category. UBS's Warhol/not Warhol calls are devastating--I feel like Kinkade's paintings are the actual thing Warhol's entire oeuvre was actually a pointed statement on, but Kinkade doesn't realize it. Each one of his works represents the visualization of consumer capitalism. It is horrible.