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spices

edited September 2012
hello. i have found myself living in a home with a kitchen that has no spices. in the past i've lived with people who seemed to do spices pretty well and got by mooching off of them. but now i have nothing, and i don't really even know what spices are 'must haves.' should i just get some All Spice and call it good?

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  • smoked paprika
    turmeric
    cumin
    coriander
    chili powder
    nutritional yeast
    curry powder
    red chili flakes

    =

    the basics
  • Tight call. Olive oil. Straight up S&P.
  • Yeah, my most-used spices are pretty much the ones Wanda listed. I would also add cayenne.

    Also though pretty staple are BASIL AND OREGANO

    I feel like if you get lots of teeny plastic baggies and buy in bulk it's much, much cheaper. I just have all my age-old spice jars and I keep refilling them.

    A fully stocked spice drawer would cost like a million dollars. Start small and work your way up as needed. I'd say the ultra basics are:

    basil
    oregano
    chili powder
    curry powder
    S&P (cheap)
    nutritional yeast (is this really a spice? More of an ingredient)
    red pepper flakes

    these are in almost everything I make. The other stuff is more recipe-specific
  • This guy is happy with All Spice. I'm saying, MM, get one or two kinds of furikake, a pepper grinder, and call it a day.
  • I bet I have not used All Spice in two years

    different kind of spice concept

    wait I used it once to make pickles
  • Oh man. I am into the sweet spices. Nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon, dried ground ginger, all spice.
  • old bay
  • mustard?
    berbere?
    rosemary!
    dill!
    bay leaves!
  • edited September 2012
    K-Dawg's list is tight.

    Rosemary is always growing fresh. It's fun to grab a sprig at the edge of a parking lot. Or nip from a neighbor's yard.

    I think the big cheap containers of "italian seasoning" are ok for most kitchens, just make sure there's no MSG listed when looking at the ingredients.

    I like to have Herbs de-Provence around and Balsamic vinegar, which is a sauce, maybe?

    Maybe we are really talking seasonings here.

    Tarragon is really cool and pickle-y.

    I think Sriracha is essential, also soy sauce or whatmacalit: tamari.

    Fish Sauce, Plum Sauce, and rice vinegar, all nice to have around to make anything savory and delicious.

    Mint, basil, rosemary, thyme(!) and chives are easy to grow in a little pot in a window sill. Just keep them watered and voila, a self-stocking spice rack...!
  • One of the things I love most about Portland is all the enormous herb bushes that are totally fine to pluck from.
  • Good thread

    Garlic (TJ minced fresh in jar), basil, thyme, onion powder, rosemary, sage
    Coriander, turmeric, mustard
    Ground cayenne, pepper flakes, black pepper
    Cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, ginger, vanilla, 5 spice
    Orange oil, lemon oil - you can get non-official food grade cheaper at essential oil shops
    And for special occasion$, saffron

    Chef Paul Prudhomme's blackening spice is pricy and useful, working on duplicating that and berbere.

    Coop stores you can bring your jars and weigh them before filling, much cheaper and eco. Sheridan Fruit on MLK is also good. Most taste is smell, and the smelling is free at places that sell bulk spices. If you want a price calibration, check Frontier Coop.

    White, cider, balsamic, Japanese rice vinegar, more. Worcestershire sauce, oyster sauce, black bean garlic sauce (make your own Chinese green beans, also good on broccoli) Anchovy paste.

    Also digging the TJ grinder spice bottles (salt pepper), totally reusable.

  • edited September 2012
    I second the TJ grinders. Great way to start with spices. They've got great combos. South African Smoke is bomb.

    Speaking of smoke, La Dalia smoked paprika is a great way to get that smoky charcoal flavor into sauces and soups.
  • so are you saying All Spice isn't just a big mixture of ALL SPICES??
    the foundation of my reality is crumbling.
  • no! its name is misleading. It's actually a berry or something that's dried and then ground up.
    for example when I said I used it to make pickles, I meant I used whole allspice. Little hard turd berries of allspice.

    I don't know why it's called allspice
  • Bill, this is all you need.

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  • Allspice is similar to nutmeg in flavor and usage!

    I think it's kind of nasty, but to each thine own!

    BLACKENING SPICE MIX
    SEA SALT
    SMOKED PAPRIKA
    CURRY POWDER
    CAYENNE
    BAY LEAVES

    CINNAMON
    REAL VANILLA EXTRACT


    So many "spices" are much better fresh- dill, oregano, sage, basil! Grow your own or buy fresh when needed.

    I personally don't cook with a ton of spices and prefer to just accent great ingredients with HQ oils, lemon, fresh herbs, salt, etc. I'm a minimalist, tho.
  • last night I made two pizzas for under ten dollars
    basil from my garden
    ridic simple pizza sauce (28 oz can of drained toms, two cloves garlic, 1 T olive oil, 1 t red wine vinegar, dried oregano, s&p, put in food processor!!! Only had to purchase the toms, already had the other stuff.)
    flour, yeast, honey = pennies on the dollar, already had flour & honey
    $3.50 thing of fancy mozz blobs
    splurged on $5 thing of garlic olives
    whizz bang
    pizza wine leftover from long ago TJs trip
  • There is also a confusingly named spice called savory.
  • that Jane's Crazy Mix Up looks like exactly what i need.

    but i am making progress- got me some Cayenne, some Garlic Powder, some Curry, some Oregano, and some salt and pepper. BABY STEPS. next on my list is Cinnemon.

    thank you UHX from saving me the cost and embarrassment of purchasing a big tub of ALLSPICE and dousing my next meal with it.
  • YUCK!!!!!!! allspice is for apple pies and that's it!

    cinnamon is good. I've been getting more into it.
    Putting it in oatmeal, making cinnamon toast, also putting it in weird shit like scrambled eggs or enchilada sauce. It's good and good for you apparently

  • Something about cloves and allspice is that you have to keep them in an airtight container, preferably a glass jar. Don't leave them in little baggies in your spice cupboard because they will make everything else (especially salt) smell and taste like them.
    THEY ARE STRONG.

    I am not a fan. But I do use them once a year or so to make pumpkin pie. So I buy them in infinitely small quantities and keep them in a special container.

    I don't think you need garlic powder, use the real thing! Much nicer!

    I don't use a ton of spices and herbs either, but I am slowly discovering what certain things work for. Like thyme is great in a hearty barley soup. Same for marjoram.
    I like sage in an onion pie.
    I love the yard herbs that just grow and dry out on their own. I have two rosemary bushes and they make food taste different in an exciting way. I also love chives in an omelet with fried tomatoes.
  • edited September 2012
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  • Garlic powder is good for things like mashed potatoes and dry meat rubs.
  • that is very empowering, about Cook's Illustrated and Fudge, Joey!

    Some of the most dramatic times I have LOVED something I've been served at a friends' house have resulted in them saying "I got it out of Cook's Illustrated."

    I'm beginning to think I should subscribe too!
  • Oh my gosh I am just now realizing that Bill McKinley is Big Mac! That's so embarrassing.

    I could have tailored my answer, Bill!

    Possibilities for sweet-potato pasta: dried basil, garlic powder/salt, cinnamon (if you want a different spin), oregano, red chili flakes, s&p
    Possibilities for mexican glop/burritos: green chili, red chili (what else?)
    Possibilities for bean-glop: pretty much the same as sweet-potato pasta, but no cinnamon

    Doesn't this pretty much cover what you'll be cooking for the next few months? :)
  • Haha, I didn't know until you revealed it. Guess the buffalo should have given it away.
  • I recommend "how to cook everything vegetarian" by mark bittman! I learn so much1
  • I recommend Veganomicon!! So many killer recipes in there. It's my favorite cookbook. It's a really nice mix of kind of elaborate/challenging and then really easy shit you can just throw together. This book is where I finally learned how to blacken tempeh!

    Big Mac, I recently made a bunch of Word docs about cooking for a friend of mine who is not a great cook and is trying to eat healthier--do you want them? Recipes and how to think about grocery shopping and stuff? I can send
  • Veganomicon is also great!
  • I want that, YT!!
  • I will send!
    you can discard whatever advice/suggestions are obvious/not interesting. The recipes I believe are universally delightful
  • YT send em my way. Gary has my email address, if he is logged on.
  • Just wait until I tell you all about my Vitamixer!
  • I will send!
  • So, late to comment, but I confess that the spices some of you are proposing as 'basics' are not ones I consider key at all. But that doesn't really matter, because my #1 tip is to buy small amounts in bulk while you try things out. Otherwise, it's really expensive to outfit a kitchen, and some things (like, ahem, allspice) are ones you will only use 2 tsp of in a year, so paying six bucks for a whole jar is not cost-effective. So, buy small amounts at New Seasons or any natural-ish grocery, and figure out what YOUR staples are. Side benefit: this also keeps you from ending up with really stale spices, which can make any dish taste sad. A rough rule of thumb is to throw out any spice that's more than a year old.

    My staples are, roughly in this order: freshly-ground pepper, cumin, coriander, sweet hungarian paprika, bay leaves, brown mustard seeds [for South Indian cooking and very little else - but I make a lot of that, so it's a volume spice for me], chili powder, cinnamon (for baking), dried oregano, turmeric, and cayenne. Everything else I buy in seriously small quantities. I personally don't consider garlic or onion powder, dried basil, or dried rosemary worth buying. But YMMV depending on what kind of cuisines you like to cook.

    (YT, Cook's is a brilliant technique publication, but they are bizarrely obsessed with MEATY MC MEATERSON. Deeply tiresome. If you ever have a specific recipe and you want to see their version, let me know and I'll email you a copy from their website, to which I subscribe.)
  • I think I have spices in my cupboard that are 12+ years old.
  • Mine too. D: My mom gave me all of her old spices, if she owned doubles. Luckily I don't use most of them. Salt, pepper, red chili flakes, cinnamon, and Italian seasoning are tops in our household.
  • My favorite spice is sriracha
  • I was always partial to 'Sporty' Spice.

    WOMP
    WOMP
  • Seattle has a spice needle.
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