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Pet Concerns

edited April 2012
Here is the thread where we can discuss our pet concerns.

I am concerned about my cat, Andy. (The last Andrew Peterson standing.) He wet the bed Friday night, so I took him into the vet at 7:30 Saturday morning. They suspected bladder stones and took an x-ray. No stones were found, but they DID find a mass in his lungs!! They sent the x-ray to the kitty radiologist and told me to sit tight- it could be a fungus, cancer, or nothing. Two days of deep worrying later I took Andy back to the vet and found out that the lung spots are benign aspirations. Phew! He has a bladder infection though, and they prescribed antibiotics and told me to switch to wet food.

Well, the wet food switch did not go over well. He vomited all night long (which if you know Andy isn't that unusual) but when I was cleaning it up this morning I found blood in one pile of puke. I had to go to work, but I called the vet and if he's not feeling better when I get home I'm going to take him back in this afternoon.

Poor Andy!! He has had such a tough weekend! Now I'm worried that he's vomiting up the antibiotics. I think I shouldn't change his diet right now after all, but the vet strongly suggested that I do. What do you guys think? I feel so demoralized and I have no confidence in my own decision making right now.
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  • edited April 2012
    I am not a cat person, but I know with dogs it is often recommended that when you change their diets you do it gradually. like on the first day mix in just a little bit of the new kibble with the old, and then on the second and third days more like 50-50, and so on. that way their bodies can adjust and not have a shock to the system.
  • Yeah, same with cats. I've also heard really good things about those raw food discs you thaw out.
  • I think it's gotta be a slow switch. Andy has a sensitive stomach.
  • Yes! Don't worry too much yet! Frank gets the shits whenever he eats anything even slightly out of the ordinary.

    1. Slow switch, definitely: for a couple of days, feed him mostly his normal food, with just a bit of wet food. Gradually (over like, 2 weeks, lets say) increase the amount of wet food, keeping an eye on barfing and holding back again if barfing starts

    2. Other option: give him his normal food, but IN WATER. We do this to frank all the time to trick him to drink water when we want him to. He doesn't give a shit--he'll eat anything we put in his bowl. Cat may be more finicky, but you could try giving him his normal food but dumping a cup of water in the bowl first and letting it sit for a minute. If he eats it, great, he's getting water that way. Actually I might try this first, since it's easier/cheaper/not switching up his entire nutrient profile/etc.

    Cats get bladder infections all the time. I learned this the hard way when I lived with a certain Mrs. Whiskers. They don't drink as much water as dogs do, naturally, because felines in the wild get most of their water from eating raw meat hunks (hence wet food actually being better for them). Who knows what canines in the wild get up to, but apparently they drink water more often.

    Poor Andy! Gary's original namesake! Get that guy back on his feets!!
  • I don't know a ton about cats, but Sasha's cat eats this fancy raw turkey stuff and loves it so much:
    http://www.waggintails.com/p-9604-rad-cat-free-range-raw-turkey-cat-food.html

    He still sometimes barfs but only when he eats too fast like a dingus.
  • Cats are such master dinguses. Dingi?

    All of the things they said- put water on his kibbles, give him just a tiny bit of wet food and gradually less kibbles. They have sensitive stomachs and don't do well with change, but wet food will eventually help him get more water and have a healthy bladder.

    Poor buddy!
  • It sounds like you have identified the main problem: a bladder infection. So everything you do should be in service of fixing this one problem. If it means you have to slowly change his diet so he digests his medicine in the next 10 days, just do that, then tackle the diet problem next. Why the diet change? Is it speicifically a weight control thing, or is there something about his dry food that is actively inhibiting his healing? The blood is probably just from vomiting so much.
  • bladder infection comes from not drinking enough water / flushing out the pee-hole enough
    dry food thus is often linked to UTIs in cats because they don't get enough water in their diet, because they don't naturally drink a lot of water, because they are dinguses
  • UPDATE: Just talked to the main vet I'd been seeing. She read the results of the urinalysis differently and isn't convinced it's a UTI like the 2nd vet I saw thought. She said not to worry about the blood in the vomit unless it gets worse because his stomach is probably just really irritated from all the yakking. But she's concerned that he's not going #2 much. If he doesn't go in the next 24 hrs I have to take him back for his 2nd enema in 4 days.

    POOR ANDY!!

    This vet said to return to his normal food until he's feeling a bit better, then slowly try to switch him to the wet food, i.e. you guys were right. The pet store lady told me to switch him to the wet food abruptly!

    So much conflicting advice! So much worrying about my crit!
  • That's true, but UTIs also develop in bigger cats because their tongues can't reach their bathing suit areas so good. Drinking water is one part of the process that is completed by cleaning. I still think a diet change, including water, has to be introduced slowly, and that completing medications is the first priority.
  • Don't listen to pet store people, they aren't vets or UHX professionals!
  • When our cat wasn't drinking enough water and was subsequently getting dry skin/UTIs, we were advised by the vet to add water to our wet canned food. There hasn't been a problem since. And yeah, gradual changes in food are best.
  • getting yr cat to drink:
    put a second (and third) water bowl for dude away from his food. i think we have read many places that water near food is not natural habit for cat. cats tend to like when they "find" some water you put for them in some cool strange other place. so like, some place "conspicuous" in some other rooms might entice the dude to take some more sips throughout the day.
  • This vet tech girl told me my cat's kidneys were sensitive because she eats dry food. I definitely want to switch to that raw food when I have decent money.
  • Also, AF is right, my cat started drinking way more water when we moved it away from the food.
  • Whoa, Sasha's cat is bankrolled. The frozen raw stuff at the store is way cheaper.
  • took our lovely lady (cat) in for her annual vaccinations.
    (aside: is this really necessary for an indoor cat? i don't mind spending the $70 to know she is in good health, but imagine the chances of her getting a disease are slim.)
    we learned, but already kind of knew, that she is OBESE and needs to lose 4lbs.
    what's with these fatty no-water-drinking dinguses (dingi)?
  • My cat is indoor and I never do that. She's 11.
  • edited April 2012
    This thread is awesome! It is good to know why Michael prefers drinking from the bathtub faucet or the glass of water on the bedside table instead of her water bowl!

    Yesterday, Michael got a scratch on her lower eyelid when a weird neighborhood cat invaded the house while I was moving stuff downstairs. It was so traumatizing! (For me, not for her. She is an unflappable warrior princess.)

    Are you supposed to take a cat to the vet for something like that? Do you apply neosporin?
  • Andrew P*t*rs*n is feeling lots better. You know what helped? A heaping spoonful of canned pumpkin with his regular dry food, morning and night! It's keeping him regular, thank heavens. Also apparently he prefers to pee outside now. I think he's holding it until I let him out. I'm fine with that for now- I'm just glad he's going.

    I tried putting water dishes in sneaky spots like Alan said but so far he's not going for it.

    I'm getting good at shooting antibiotics down his gullet without him spitting it all out.

    I've never spent so much time thinking and talking and typing about my animal's bathroom habits! What have I become?!
  • My dad once had a cat that enjoyed drinking water trickling out of the kitchen faucet. The cat would hop up on the counter and just wait there until someone would come along and turn the water on, and the she'd reach down and drink it like a drinking fountain. it was pretty cute.

    neosporin on a scratch is good as long as the animal can't lick it off or it doesn't get in their eyes. I agree it's pretty traumatizing when you pet gets in a tiff. I was so protective of Tess and her toothless but otherwise tough-girl self... she had that natural alpha self confident vibe that would make other female dogs hate her and start shit with her, and because she didn't have any teeth she couldn't properly defend herself. absolutely traumatizing!
  • I'd call a vet before putting any ointment on the dude, just because sometimes it's better to put a cat-specific joint on there so they don't eat it like a dummy. Just to be sure

    Prince takes a long time to adjust to even favorable changes, so I'd give Andy some time to think about his new watering holes. When I got him a cat bed he just avoided it fearfully for about two weeks, even though it's obviously something that is nice for a cat dude. DINGUS.

    He also likes to lick a faucet, roll around in a wet bathtub, and splash his paws in an open toilet bowl. Dingus supreme.
  • edited April 2012
    DD loves to lap water from her bowl, I gotta refill that thing all the time. Maybe she's diabetic

    Also for cats with more to love: go slow on the dieting, so they don't get fatty liver disease aka live pâté. It can develop in just a day.

    Why he like to put his hands in that potty!?!?????!!!!!
  • One of my family's nicknames for the cat is "Dinkus Horriblus"
  • My cat is also obsessed with the toilet, and knows that we are diligent about putting the lid down, so whenever a friend is over at our house, she waits outside the door while they are in the bathroom, because she knows it might be her only chance.
  • My snoopy stare at the speakerphone
  • what about that whole thing about toilets having less germs than kitchens
  • What is up with how the cat tears out of its litter pan like a ghost suddenly has showed up in there? She is in there organizing her closet then MMMM she makes this pensive, fearful groan and kicks up a damn clay cloud.
  • Oh yeah, our cat does this, and then sprints up and down the stairs. We call it poopracing.
  • I love the thing where the dog takes his big shit and then joyfully, energetically swipes his back paws along the grass, like a bull about to race at a matador. "DONE AND DONE!"
  • My cat scratches the wall when she is done eating. The internet says it means she wants to save the rest of her food for later, or didn't like what she ate. We'll never know!
  • edited May 2012
    Ha ha!

    I like it when I come home, my cat scratches the couch. I feel she is showing off for me.
    Except I wish she WOULD NOT SCRATCH THE COUCH. I bought her a special pole but she doesn't touch it. I just keep her claws trim and curse her...
  • My cat seems to be feeling much better, although he is still not drinking much/any water. I've been making his dry food super soupy to make up for it, but I'm still a little worried about him. I have little cups of water everywhere a la Alan's advice, but he won't drink a drop (at least not when I'm around.)

    But the thing that is DRIVING ME CRAZYYY is Andre's new habit of waking up at 4:15 and racing around the house for an hour while occasionally meowing. He runs from window to window and back and forth across the bed. Maybe he thinks he's a rooster, waking up the farm? I don't know but I HATE IT! If I try to shut him out of the bedroom he just paws the bedroom door and cries loudly.

    WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS ANIMAL???
  • WRESTLE HIM!
  • @Loose_Thread our dummy does the same thing! got a pole. wasn't into it. THEN we got one of those corrugated cardboard things that lies on the ground. when she scratched something she wasn't supposed to, we carried her over to the cardboard thing. now, she loves it. (still scratches the couch when she wants to be a diva, though).
  • Ha ha! Dakk it, I got the pole because I thought she would like its heaviness. Diva is one of her names......
  • I'm sorry about your cat's weird behavior, Wanda.
    I once had a cat like that. He didn't drink enough water and was super constipated. I fed him canned pumpkin, too.
    Do you have a cat door? From my experience, having a cat door and leaving your bedroom door open when you have an outdoors cat allows for peaceful sleeping. My cat just does her thing. It's so mellow. Except today I tried to introduce her to a two year-old human and now I am left with two giant bloody scratches on my chest...
  • Humans are scary. Especially the little ones.
  • My dog is afraid of children too. I'm so scared he will bite. Kids don't understand anything, so even when a dog is lunging terrifiedly to get away from them they still go plowing right ahead, arms outstretched, screeching.
  • This video is only kind of related to this thread because it involves a (big) cat and an oblivious baby, but it's pretty funny:

  • THE VIDEO IS AMAZING.
  • Wanda- do you use a Britta? if so, consider giving your cat water from the Britta instead of the tap water. maybe your water tastes funny? here at the boathouse we have old rusty pipes, and un-filtered water tastes noticeably weird. Tess never seemed to mind, but Ukiah is not into it. for weeks before i figured it out i couldn't understand why he would gulp up water from puddles on walks but never drink water from his bowl, but then we started giving him water from the Britta and he is cool with it.
  • Diva Dog! :)
  • Joey- Andy is a wimp and can't go outside without supervision (especially at night) so a kitty door is out. :( It's too bad because he loves being outside so much!

    BMA- He used to drink water, but not anymore! I'll try filtered- that's a good idea.

    YT- Kids are dummies. It's a sad fact.
  • WRESTLE HIM! You need to tire him out. He is full of beans.
  • I don't want to wrestle him!! He wanted to wrestle me so bad this morning and when I ignored him he punched me in the face! Twice in a row!! Your morning wrestling routine is really effing me now that it's just the two of us!
  • I think Mike has a point about tiring him out... he is a lot like a big, strong dog!

    Why won't you wrestle him?
  • He scratches and bites. I still have scars. But I think he likes it, and it's fun. We had a game called Cobra and Mongoose:



    Andy was the mongoose, I was the cobra. I even made hissing sounds to make it more realistic.
  • I do play with him to tire him out, I just DON"T WANT TO WRESTLE at 4:45 in the morning!
  • So does the mongoose know not to eat the part of the snake with the venom in it? How does that work?
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