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edited February 2013
will you guys keep your eyes peeled for a cool situation for me, gary, and the snoopy?
we love our wee house, but the lack of maintenance is really coming to a head. We have gnarly mold problems and I'm worried the roof will cave in. Also there are mice. The house is basically being reclaimed by the earth, slowly, and I feel like we are living here on borrowed time. Maybe it will last another 10 years; maybe the roof will cave in tomorrow. I am concerned with health issues related to mold, which I don't understand but have definitely heard can be scary.

the issue is that this place is outrageously cheap (see above re: clueless landlords). I have not seen another stand-alone 1 bedroom house for anything even approaching the cheapness of what we pay. I feel really weird about moving back into an apartment. I have come to enjoy the freedom of no shared walls, and not having to worry that the snoopy's click-clacking claws or potential daytime barking are disturbing neighbors, etc. Also the yard is great. Also, we really don't want to leave our neighborhood. So we are at a bit of an impasse.

Anyway, this may be a problem with no solution but I just wanted to put it out there into the universe and see if anyone has any ideas, and also to ask you to keep your eyes peeled for a situation that might suit us.
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  • also any suggestions for dealing aggressively with mold/moisture
  • also does everyone still find apartments/houses on craigslist or is there another zone I'm overlooking? Have not looked for housing here since like 2003
  • I bought a large dehumidifier when I was living in a basement; I knew it was damp down there, but I was surprised when I dumped my first gallon of water only two hours after turning it on. They work miracles!

    I've been using padmapper to help a friend find an apartment, it seems pretty good.

    Julia and I found our crazy place on CL. I'm happy to help look if you send a price range...
  • dehumidifiers are magic if you can deal with the noise.
  • very serious about this guys. checking on dehumidifiers on c-list but very serious about moving. Please put that energy out into the universe.

    oh lord
    my struggles
  • We went dehumidifier shopping when we moved into our new apartment and were told, "They don't sell dehumidifiers in WA state because...what's the point?"

    Feeling duped.
  • I found my place on Craigslist. I looked at the list everyday for awhile. I also just drove around neighborhoods I wanted to live in looking for signs.
  • I like the "look around" method. Especially around the tenth of the month when many tenants are obliged to tell their landlords that they are moving out.

    I've also done well with the personal network method.

    BIg dehumidifiers can help in basements and such. It seems like a good investment if you are storing things. First step might be to buy a little humidity gauge to find out if you have a problem. At the Clear Cut warehouse in Astoria I was pulling about a half gallon of water a day out of our storage area, which kept the moisture at an acceptable level, at least within the range recommended for paper storage by some kind of archive site I found.

    Mold that has grown in the walls can only be taken out by taking out the walls.

    I think you can buy little tests to find out how much mold is in your air. You can also buy little machines that filter your air.
  • YT - do you feel comfortable sharing your price range up in here?

    I have a very amazing potential solution: I buy a house, you rent the house, I live in the already-awesome basement or backyard cottage. This would rely on the assumption that you like me well enough to want to live on the same piece of property as me, but this is one of the arrangements I've been seriously considering since my hunt for homes began. It's just hard for me to figure out how to buy a home on my own, but it's something I really really want to do.

    Is it weird to even suggest something like that? I am very close to putting an offer on (another) house (sigh) that is out of my price range but could totally work with an arrangement like this. But the thing is I want to live with cool people, not mean joe-shmoes off the street.

    Anyway.

    I will keep my eyes peeled for you! Do you have a neighborhood preference or any neighborhoods you refuse to live in?

  • Also YT... I have been thinking about this, and I think you guys should start looking BEFORE you need to move. Results may vary but renting in Portland is a complete nightmare.... better to get a head start if you have some flexibility, because it is not impossible to imagine a scenario where you could try to get a house for weeks and months and still not find anything.

  • Flossy, this is a great plan you have but I think our price range is hilariously low! We are looking in the $800 per month range (total, not each!). This is why it is a somewhat specialized request and why it is proving so difficult to move out of our house even though it is probably poisoning us with black mold.

    I am looking every day on craigslist for sure! We'll see.



  • I have a friend who is moving out of a one bedroom apartment for which she pays $475 A MONTH! It is in a 4-plex and it's on the end of the plex, so only one shared wall. Plus, it's on Prescott and 19th or something awesome. I am going to check with her, even though I don't know if you're interested in apartment living at all (even if it's a plex). I think she said the landlord is going to raise the rent to a whopping $650 after she's gone, but that's still cheap in my book.

    Ok, but here's another potential option (don't worry about offending me if this is of no interest to you): I think I may have found my house. In true Portland fashion, my dear friend found out I was looking, and it just so happens she put an offer on a new house last week so she's going to sell me her old house! It is wonderful, and this is a 78% sure deal. And here's the thing: it has a studio apartment in the basement with kitchen and full bath. I'm going to have to think about how this could work out, but maybe there is a way for us to all live there and have it benefit everyone. I don't know yet. I'm thinking as I type. I don't think you two would want the studio apartment (it's too small), so maybe I could take it? I don't even know. But I am working on this for you, YT, one way or another. Housing is my true passion in this life.
  • Yeah, you should be a real estate agent :)
  • edited February 2013
    housing is a cool passion to have!
    we are very interested in the 4-plex. Have you seen it? what's it like? Do they allow snoopys?
    Maybe we should begin private emailing at some point Flossy
    FUN

    CONGRATS ON YOUR NEW HOUSE THAT YOU OWN!?!?!!!!!!!! amazing
  • I do not own it yet! And even after I "buy" it I will really just be renting it from the bank. But whatever - thanks!
  • I just emailed my friend - I'm not sure about your questions. I've only done a quick glance into the place so I don't really have a good sense of it.
  • Flossy- my hat is off to you. I consider myself a good housing connector but you put my efforts to shame! I hope you get this house and then have us all over for that pants party we talked about.

    Also... Ian's tiny house will be done in a couple of months and they're looking for buyers but if they can't find one they'll rent it out. Probably too small for a couple and a snoopy (bedroom is a loft) but it would be perfect for a single or a couple that can live snugly. It is truly beautiful- huge windows, nearly all surfaces are wood (cedar, fir, maple, cherry) and the design is sort of rustic modern. Someone out there is going to have a very cozy home soon! I'll keep you all posted. :)

  • whoah, @wanda: keep me in the loop about that!
  • I feel like that wee house is gonna go like hotcakes!
  • WEE HOUSE! Gimme dat!
  • How much to buy the wee house? Where is it? Is the bedroom loft tall enough for sexytime?
  • do you do standup sexytime only, Alex?
    perhaps Ian could build you a narrow but tall room exclusively for that purpose
  • Well you know, sometimes lofts only give you like 3 or 4 feet of space between your head and the roof, which isn't even big enough to contain my giant testicles.
  • edited February 2013
    I agree, the wee house sounds amazing. Where will the wee house go, though? I mean, does it need a plot of land to call its own?

    Rustic modern? I'm swooning. Maybe I should scrap the whole "house buying" idea and add a "wee-" to the endeavor! Is Ian for hire as a wee-house builder?
  • Also, I really want to see pictures of the wee house.
  • MZ: I think real estate agents are going out of style. With sites like redfin.com, who needs one?
  • Yet another option, YT: Track down whoever buys this place and let them know you would like to rent the house in their backyard! I went through it the other day (just let myself in, thank you very much) and it has pretty great potential.
  • edited February 2013
    I love the quaint phrases that people give converted garages/shacks
    "mother in law"
    "pottery studio"
    I believe at my house they called it "the studio..." very genteel

    Would love to see stats on how housing becomes more dense when people convert to duplex, triplex, quadrupleplex, garages, sheds, and the like..... as parking lots are parceled out to food carts, so our back yards are rented to tiny houses (note: I definitely do not mean to sound as though I am lamenting this fact.... I mean I might kind of lament it but I do not stand by that as an opinion)

    A fancy adult I know converted their garage to a nice little getaway for Air BnB but let's get real, eventually that will be full time housing
    Before moving here I was impressed by an outdoor closet on someone's porch that was being rented as a room (summertime)... this is the future I see!
  • I will post pictures of the wee-house soon. Loft is tall enough for sexy times in all regular positions. (Favorite bedroom joke: "should we do it the regular way or the other way?") A tall man can sit upright in bed and read without bumping his head, to be more specific.

    Wee-houses sell for between 35K-50K. Ian's will be around 40K, somewhat negotiable. A buyer would need some little bit of land to put it on (in the woods, at the beach, in a backyard...) and then Ian and his pal will drive it over and get the plumbing all set up for the buyer. They can make it so it's on or off the grid. It'll have it's own little bathroom with a shower and a very thoughtfully planned kitchen. Like a ship!

    If it doesn't sell they'll keep it as a rental. We have a few good leads on well-sized backyards with amenable owners in good neighborhoods. "It's all good."

    LT, when Jimmy lived in your studio we all called it the HUT. I'm so happy you live back there, whatever it's called. No lamenting allowed!
  • Also Flossy- the idea is to build a couple more next summer. He'd make you a wee house for sure! :)
  • "He whisked off her shoes and panties in one movement, wild like an enraged shark, his bulky totem beating a seductive rhythm. Mary's body felt like it was burning, even though the room was properly air-conditioned. They tried all the positions: on top, doggy, and normal. Exhausted, they collapsed on to the recently extended sofa bed. Then a hellbeast ate them." - Garth Marenghi
  • "on top"!!
    WHO?
    "normal"

    so good
  • What are the dimensions of the wee-house? So curious!
  • That house for $317K is so nice and like surprisingly big! Is that how much houses cost there? So much light and stuff.
  • Flossy- it's the size of the largest RV that you'd see on the road. 150 sq ft I think?
  • Houses are around that range. The junk shack next to me (where we used to live) is priced at $185k right now. I feel like someone might buy it and tear it down.
  • LOOK AT THIS AMAZING HOUSE THAT JUST CAME ON THE MARKET!

    http://www.johnlscott.com/propertydetail.aspx?IS=1&ListingID=301547188

    Woah. Rethinking everything! It's so beautiful.

    Matthew: Lots of houses in the 270 - 450k range here.
  • whoa, that is a straight up amazing house.
  • I like the art, too! Who are you, mysterious Portland artist? I feel like I should be able to recognize it.
  • I'm just gonna keep keeping you all posted on my sad lack-of-progress in buying a house.

    My friend decided not to buy the house she was thinking of buying after all, so that deal is on hold. In the meantime, I saw the absolute cutest little cottage last Saturday - a total wee house -- and made an offer! It was a strong offer! Well above asking price for a house that was only 688 sq. ft. (with no basement or garage or anything). AND IT GOT TURNED DOWN.

    Sigh.

    I'm not going to give up, although my realtor did tell me last night that in her entire career she has only lost 4 offers -- and two of those have been mine. I guess there is a crazy-weird market thing happening in Portland right now. She told me her colleage made an offer for a client last week that was 20-30% over asking, IN CASH, with a waived inspection and a 3-week closing, and it was turned down!

  • My tax person was pretty adamant that I should buy a house soon (for tax/investment/living purposes), but it really seems like a losing/stressful endeavor unless you have something insane like $400k in cash to spend...or unless you want to live in St Johns or out on 82nd or something.

    Sasha says there's lots of out-of-towners dropping cash on houses to rent out in Portland right now. SUCKS!
  • commune
  • edited February 2013
    I would buy in St. John's if I could! Don't discount it if you are serious. Extremely livable. Not that far. It will blow up eventually so if you can buy now, it will pay off in the long run.

    Among many, many reasons St John's is the bomb---for the money, it is the most beautiful place to live in Portland. In many neighborhoods there, you step outside of your house, and you have a gorgeous, fog-shrouded view of Forest Park that seems to be put under a magnifying glass. It's like the view you get in SW if there were no houses. And, the waterfront areas are guaranteed to be permanent trails in our lifetime because of the Superfund cleanup. I don't know where else in Portland you can live where you get a guarantee that condos won't spring up around your property.

    I don't have a car and I have lived and played there happily for years. And I'm a city person, not a country/suburbs person. St. J's FTW!!!
  • I also appreciate those things about St John's, LT! It's a truly beautiful hood. However...

    It takes so long to bike from St John's to downtown/SE. I think that's the main drawback of deeper North Portland for me. I would very rarely go to Holocene, YU events, etc. I'd have to bike up US30 late at night (eww) or go up Williams all the way to Lombard then west on Lombard.

    I like a 15-20 minute bike commute to my hangout areas as opposed to a 45-60 minute bike commute. St Johns fits into the latter, unfortunately.

    Even when I was briefly living near where YT and Gary live now in Arbor Lodge, it was harsh to ride home from Holocene at 2am on a rainy night or whatever. When I was living in Irvington and now NW, it makes it much easier to bike around at night in inclement weather.

    Guess I'll have to resign myself to renting forever if I want to maintain this "close-in" lifestyle.
  • edited February 2013
    That is a good point. I very rarely socialize, as all my homies know ^_^ It takes an hour to get anywhere, longer at night.
  • There's literally nothing on Redfin west of 39th, north of division, south of alberta, and east of the river for less than 300k.
  • Agreed, I'm too much of a socialite to live in St John's. :(
  • This house next to me is like $185k, but it's a real dump IMO. It's getting Radon tested right now, so maybe someone made an offer, I dunno.
  • I love St Johns. Would live there

    Alex's points are real though
  • Biking down Greeley and then along the bluffs to St Johns is a nice way to go view/vibe wise. But there's no getting around the fact that it's a long ass ride.
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