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day 2.5 of sitting on my ass due to sprained ankle
just chillin looking at screens and shit
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GET WELL SOON ALROD
somewhere along the line, the music on the CDs (along with the rest of the marriage records catalog) got onto itunes/amazon mp3/emusic etc via a digital distribution deal marriage cut with one of the big players in the game at the time (iota or the other one i cant remember). due to itunes strict pricing structure, the mp3 version of the box set was, and is, a lot of money. i've asked it to be lowered but to do so would be way more work than it would be worth to go through for such an obscure release.
In 2010 i got a google alert for my name which led to a blogspot blog that had gone to the trouble of uploading each of the audio discs to a file sharing network so people could download the zips and have the audio files for free.
i figured since the release was hard to find, sold out, way too expensive on weird itunes, and since someone somewhere had gone to the trouble of uploading all the stuff and writing a little, complimentary blurb on this release, i wouldn't get upset, but would rather re-blog said blog post onto my tumblr blog.
this tumblr post was then seen by a young musician/staff writer at the seattle alt weekly the stranger. I'd talked to him before, his band had played with mine and he was a very nice, very enthusiastic and very glowing in the paper about me as a musician. anyway, he wrote a little blurb:
[Name omitted] on MON, MAR 29, 2010 at 11:35 AM
Time to pause that torrent, dude. Adam Forkner/White Rainbow—the PNW's reigning auditory magus—posted a link on his tumblr last week to this page on the Big Fat Satanist blog, where all five discs of his out-of-print 2006 White Rainbow Box have been made available as free mediafire downloads. Obviously, the upping has Forkner's blessing, and Big Fat Satanist also recently posted a rip of WR's 2009 Sea Thru cassette. Good thing, too, since the link for purchasing the still-circulating tape seems to be down.
The White Rainbow Box is a comprehensive assortment of three years worth of Forkner's meditative, experimental (and often improvisational) riffage. Used copies go for around $100, so if you're in the market for some curative ambient instrumentals to soundtrack this nascent week-long rain sesh, you're in luck. Just remember to give thanks to internet pirate gods and to the eternally-awesome, hoodie-clad Portlander himself, for being so down with the free exchange of his most elusive recordings.
A little over two years later, this email exchange happens:
August 23, 2012
Jake PXXX writes:
"I'm reading this article* that boasts links to a free expansive set of music called the White Rainbow Box and it sends me to a dead blog. C'mon man let me appreciate this and other stuff if there is like I know there is"
Adam replies:
"C'mon man"
August 24th
Jake PXXX replies:
"listen up I've had it up to here okay?! Where are your values. give me music."
August 26th:
"how can i listen to it then this box of music"
Adam replies:
"buy it on itunes:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/box/id199305171
http://www.amazon.com/Box/dp/B001E578ZU/ref=tmm_other_meta_binding_title_0
http://spotibot.com/album/7kQlSji0wsYhHiAcF2Mhda
first watch this:
August 27th
Jake PXXX-
"you're getting sick and you need someone by your bedside, I think my son should dilute his sport drinks with water but he wants to drink em right out of the bottle who's right?"
Adam
"no"
Jake PXXX-
"Uncle funny are we?"
then
"I need someone to play at a beauty pageant my parents are hosting (my little sister is going to win), think I could book you? "
Adam
"Is there free wifi"
Jake PXXX -
"yeah but the password takes hours to type out, how about it? How about it."
Days pass, trees leaves rustle in the late summer breeze, dusks and dawns and yawning days
Sept 3rd 2012
Jake PXXX writes:
"i'd pay 5 dollars for your music if you didn't have an unlimited amount of it"
to which Adam replies
"i'd pay 5 dollars to know you couldn't just email me stupid witticisms whenever you felt like it"
Sept 4th
Jake
"That wasn't my intention. I was asking you where I could listen to music you made that I can't seem to find, it isn't on your psyched out bandcamp. You mocked me for that. I figured you had a sense of humor considering all you've done is egg me on."
Adam
"c'mon man"
"enjoy wearing flat bills and googling yourself"
Adam
"c'mon man
dude, if a music's rarity is the reason you are into it, then i'm not interested in your opinion about mine. first you write me complaining that you cant find my shit, then i tll you where to find it, then you tell me that you'd only give money (five whole dollars!) if you knew i couldnt sell an un limited supply. what do u expect from me? to kiss your ass for five dollars you dont want to give me? if u want scarcity, then go find yrself some of my limited pressings on ebay or something. and if you want to hear them but cant find them physically, then theres the unlimited, available digital format. youre complaining about both things! i dont know what to tell you! either listen to it, buy it or i dont know what? make yr own shit. its not that hard. get a loop pedal, ableton live and a fitted hat.
anyway, thanks for listening, regardless. but you seem more concerned with the medium than the music, the scarcity or abundance of it, the price, etc than actually listening to it. and you seem to have an awful regard for people that make music, by the tone of all of your emails. "c'mon man" is a pretty rude first thing to say to someone you dont know.
if u would have written me saying "hey i like your music and i got a few of your albums, some of which i bought on vinyl/tape/cd/on bandcamp but i can't seem to find a way to hear the tracks from your Box, or fnd a copy. do you have any copies or know how i can listen to this stuff?" my reaction would be more cordial. it wasn't what you said to begin, but i treated you well regardless. then you came back with the stupid $5 comment. so i'm just being as gruff as you have been to me since your first email.
i dont make tons of money from my shit. in fact, i live in poverty. & believe it or not, labels generally dont want to risk putting my ird shit out physically. the market is very bad for releasing music albums, maybe youve heard? putting up records on bandcamp has been one way i can share what im doing, and make a little money from the few people that appreciate what i make. and that helps me to do things like eat and pay my rent and bills. basically, i do it for the love, and try to find ways to get by and still dedicate my life to making music and sharing it. so if i seem impatient or rude, its just that your whole vibe has been mildly rude since the get and im doing my best to just get by and share stuff w people. i dont have managers, booking agents, promo people. u can email me. i like it that way. and so i gave u the benifit of the doubt when you did. now i dont. so basically now im saying if u dont like my store, u can kindly leave. but u cant say i didnt tell u why im asking you to do that, because i just did.
peace
Jake:
http://lineout.thestranger.com/lineout/archives/2010/03/29/five-discs-of-white-rainbow-now-upped-for-free
The link is broken. Not everyone owns a credit card, either. Sorry if I offended you by saying "c'mon man" in the same sentence as saying you had great music. I figured I would treat you as a person rather than a music guru, though Boring Guitar Music has been really influential. I don't know how to get any hard copies of your music while supporting you in your time of need, but you realize that if I wanted to listen to your entire bandcamp catalog in the car or at work it would cost me something like 75 dollars? There is so much music out there, I can't afford to pay what everyone asks for.
Adam
yeah that wasn't my blog. i just saw it and pointed at it. then [name omitted] wrote that article and kinda over-stated
how "cool i was" with it. that was 2 years ago. now the blog is gone.
the box is out of print and weirdly expensive on itunes. i can't
change that shit.
i don't fully own the rights to that record, i share those rights with
the label that put it out. if it was mine to do so, i would probably
eventually put it on my bandcamp for a cheap price. but also it kinda
sounds like a pain. i made the music on that record in like
2003-2005. thats a few hard-drives ago....
ever since there were records there's been more music than a person
could afford to pay for all at once.
i don't have an answer to that problem. i actually don't think its a
problem at all.
anyway sorry to put you on blast tho
go to this place and punch in these different codes and you will get these various delights
http://whiterainbowpizza.bandcamp.com/yum
all these codes are one time only, btw
dr pizzas spectral retreat and event center
xxxxxxxx
trick shot
xxxxxxx
from now on let's
xxxxxx
sea thru
xxxxxx
contemplator
xxxxxxxx
aegis
xxxxxx
sun shifts
xxxxxx
humidifier plaza
xxxxxx
lays the boogie down
xxxxx
infinity beat tape
xxxxx
escapades live in brooklyn 2010
xxxxx
night tracer
xxxxx
here's some i just made to all free cause i dunno man fuck it, get em while they hot tho
black box theater live august 2012
http://whiterainbowpizza.bandcamp.com/album/black-box
aaaa june 2012 spills and flips
http://whiterainbowpizza.bandcamp.com/album/a-a-a-a-a-a-june-2012-spills-and-flips
potted fern
http://whiterainbowpizza.bandcamp.com/album/potted-fern
& i found prism of eternal now! on mediafire
http://www.mediafire.com/?mxatza13ndo
you're a weirdo man, thankya for all this music. I heard you run a cough through your delay. I like that
http://soundcloud.com/thetaliband
http://thetaliband.bandcamp.com/
Waiting on a tape to mp3 converter for the bulk
C'mon man!
Fuck that entitlement! And also, fuck email. Sometimes I think about how people use to maintain connections through talking and writing letters, and how much weight those communications had. Now any old twerp can email/tweet you any old dumb passing thought.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
I'm used to, " from the git".
Maybe like, "Git! Shoo! You mangy cur. You are awakening my animal violence. I need my territory back. Behind these lips, my tooth."
No, I can not imagine anyone my age writing something like this to someone whose work they were interested in. "GIVE ME YOUR SHIT FOR FREE, ASSHOLE, HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO PAY FOR STUFF I WANT???"
Just unimaginable to me, that level of entitlement, and that degree of just straight-up interpersonal rudeness. Email is part of the problem but only part.
"I WANT SOME CHEESE, GIVE ME THAT CHEESE YOU MADE FROM THOSE COWS YOU ARE RAISING ON YOUR FARM AS YOUR SOLE MEANS OF MAKING A LIVING. HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO PAY FOR IT, DICKWEED, FUCK YOU, CHEESE IS STUPID ANYWAY"
love that turn in the crazy dipshit fan mentality where they go from "i really want your music" to "your music is stupid." If it's boring guitar music then why are you bothering frantically emailing the person begging to hear it?? Hilarious.
Unbelievable. Really actually hard to believe. Deeply sad. What an entitled piece of shit.
Adam you did so good writing to this dingus. You put it so clearly. He can't understand it because he isn't very smart but you nailed it and that's worth something. I can't believe you sent him all that shit though, don't you feel like you just totally justified his behavior in his mind? Like he thinks he was right, now...?
Even more stoked that I have the rainbow box now. Hey Jake I'm listening to it RIGHT NOW and it's better than you can even imagine, like a thousand orgasms while eating pizza
Andy's friend's dad was riding his bike (somewhere in CA) and got rear ended by a teen in a BMW, and now the teen girl's mom wants HIM to apologize to THE GIRL for "traumatizing" her!!!! (She fractured his back!) Somehow this seems related, ie entitlement and someone being so fucking self-centered that they think the entire external world exists to please THEM and ultimately other people are to blame if anything bothers them in any way. (cf: previous YT posts about this theme.)
dalas, you should really be playing basketball with us. you can't be worse than ruby. plus, yr tall.
Why can't we bring back street hockey? That was my jam as a kid.
scotty is surprisingly good at shut down D. also a beast to the rim offensively. he goes hard in the paint
no elbows were thrown
jordan has a real good shot
i taught reuben what "setting a pick" meant, and how to move "off ball" to create opportunities.
then i died and ruby carried me home. good man, he.
I taught andy about "setting a pick," because I use that phrase a lot as a metaphor.
I suspect the answer is "Yes" and that his attitude is a symptom of distributed production: the general 'flattening out' of technological hierarchies. Because the Chucklehead has access to similar tools and opportunities as Frogtor he imagines himself to be Frogtor's social equivalent. To Chucklehead, their particular positions in the social matrix are the result of happenstance, random law, not a function of art or whatever things mean.
To the chuckleheaded zombie, we are all chuckleheaded zombies. The difference he sees between zombie Frogtor and zombie not-Frogtor is that zombie Frogtor has been written about and processed more data.
That's probably just because he is old.
DrJ - yeah that bad review is amazing. i have watched it many times and i have come to the conclusion that that dude is on opiates
but also - whatchu gonna do
but its actually doing much better. today i went out for a while sans tape job. swelling is down to a dull thud. bruised up, tender but gaining mobility with each passing day
will probably do some shoot around in the next few days, probably wont be cleared for full contact for at least another week tho!
sad about elliot williams (blazers) achilles injury out for another damn season. so sad, loved that kid's dunks!
WTF
it's so annoying that it's not even like they're interested in being anti-capitalist for actual thought-out reasons. They just want to own everything in the world without paying for it!
I know somebody who asked her college freshmen what they wanted to do with their lives and they all said "get rich" and so she said "if you had a million dollars what would you do with it" and NONE OF THEM COULD THINK OF ANYTHING
just thinking as far as the million dollars