When a friend got a vasectomy in Seattle, the procedure was done on a deluxe recliner + he was given a souvenir pocketknife! Plus copious painkillers.
His wife contrasted this to how she was treated throughout + esp. after her 2nd pregnancy, ie horribly, ie LADY-BEING MEANS PAIN JUST DEAL WITH IT WHY MUST YOU ASK QUESTIONS/COMPLAIN/HAVE OPINIONS.
I agree that women often get shitty treatment in hospitals during birth, but I don't know how typical that vasectomy story is. Kinda doubt most dudes are getting it done in a recliner with gifts.
It sounds comparable to awesome birth stories you sometimes hear with birthing pools and doulas and midwives... Cool stories but pretty rare in our medical system.
You know, guys don't need P. to come up with disgusting ideas, desires and behaviors. It's built in. Srsly. Cannibal apes.
And..... There has always been P.
Thing is, real life, when it's working out, is always better than P.
With P., you are making it up, and you know it. It's always dumb.
I guess there is some P. that could provide a miseducation, if that's really all you knew.
I'm thinking of stuff that only, like, P. athletes could do and make it seem like they enjoyed it. That might be confusing to some dudes, I guess, if P. taught them athletic-type stuff was normal. Similar to dudes trying to skateboard off two story houses because they saw it on an episode of Jack Ass.
But that's also the realm of sex workers, right? "You pay me and I'll act like I'm into it." Basically professional athletes. A whole different realm than amateur exchanges.
I don't know much about this stuff. It works for some people, I guess, and then there are a lot of people who just make this part of their sadness and a lot of other people that are like, "Yeah. Whatever. It's weird. What were you saying? I can't find my keys."
P. type stuff just seems really dumb to me. That doesn't mean I don't do it. It just means I'd rather keep it to myself without getting anybody else involved.
Going to one of those strippity bars or trying to meet people has always seemed like way too much work.
Bottom-line, I probably subscribe to the "letting off steam" school. Nothing to fear. Probably relaxes a lot of dudes so they aren't shooting at people from the rooftops. (Which is what all dudes secretly wish we were doing. "Look at me, Ma! I'm king of the world!)
And a lot of the P. has dudes doing nice things for ladies, at least for a minute. Maybe that's the right kind of education for some guys?
On the other hand, nowadays people seem much more interested in grooming the hair down there. That must be a P./photography thing.
Disgusting ideas, desires and behaviors are just great... they are part of the wonderful mystery. I respect objects and immersive, recorded interpretations of one of the greatest pieces of pie available to our noble race.
I am proposing that the techno-interpretation of it is as different from reality as spontaneous, genuinely-felt prayer is to a MegaChurch. But just like sweet people think the MegaChurch might bring them closer to God, well, you know...
I would also propose that a generational thing is happening. Antique/retro P. had somewhat of an edge because it really had to be on the outer limits of freedom of speech.
It's just like so "soma."
And I know that we don't believe Wile E. Coyote is really getting smashed with that anvil.
It's different for girls, because of who writes, produces, and profits from it. #unsexyMarxism
The Dayton Daily News reports that Turner's bill would mandate that men seeking Viagra be "tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about 'pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.'"
I think I got a good clarifying thought here... my question had to do with men thinking they are learning about women from watching ***********. I know it is an intoxicating blend of unanswerable contradictions, forbidden truth, casual magic and unconscious desire and doubt, but that one part of it is really specific.
Well I know from informal surveys that women a decade or so younger than me seem to ALL THINK the following things are totally normal, on-the-table for every sexual encounter, and a 100% average normal part of their lives, which I never for one second have considered so in mine: - complete shaving to the skin of entire pubic/butthole region, religiously and not even just for special occasions - anal
I think internet porn is the reason for this. It's so pervasive and everywhere and makes the weirdest shit look like it's totally normal--imagine encountering that world at like age 12, of course you would think certain things were normal. I guess I don't have a judgment (who cares if you shave or think anal is not next-level), but to say that porn doesn't affect real people's lives, in this day and age (internet) especially, is bogus. If it's changed the shaving patterns of a generation of women, what else has it done?
Also totally down with RCH's unsexy marxist call: "It's different for girls, because of who writes, produces, and profits from it."
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His wife contrasted this to how she was treated throughout + esp. after her 2nd pregnancy, ie horribly, ie LADY-BEING MEANS PAIN JUST DEAL WITH IT WHY MUST YOU ASK QUESTIONS/COMPLAIN/HAVE OPINIONS.
I do like the engraved pocketknife idea though.
It sounds comparable to awesome birth stories you sometimes hear with birthing pools and doulas and midwives... Cool stories but pretty rare in our medical system.
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like... that their brains are permanently warped (the cathode ray being the retina of the minds' eye) and they will never be satisfied with real life
i am like is this my generation
And..... There has always been P.
Thing is, real life, when it's working out, is always better than P.
With P., you are making it up, and you know it. It's always dumb.
I guess there is some P. that could provide a miseducation, if that's really all you knew.
I'm thinking of stuff that only, like, P. athletes could do and make it seem like they enjoyed it. That might be confusing to some dudes, I guess, if P. taught them athletic-type stuff was normal. Similar to dudes trying to skateboard off two story houses because they saw it on an episode of Jack Ass.
But that's also the realm of sex workers, right? "You pay me and I'll act like I'm into it." Basically professional athletes. A whole different realm than amateur exchanges.
I don't know much about this stuff. It works for some people, I guess, and then there are a lot of people who just make this part of their sadness and a lot of other people that are like, "Yeah. Whatever. It's weird. What were you saying? I can't find my keys."
P. type stuff just seems really dumb to me. That doesn't mean I don't do it. It just means I'd rather keep it to myself without getting anybody else involved.
Going to one of those strippity bars or trying to meet people has always seemed like way too much work.
Bottom-line, I probably subscribe to the "letting off steam" school. Nothing to fear. Probably relaxes a lot of dudes so they aren't shooting at people from the rooftops. (Which is what all dudes secretly wish we were doing. "Look at me, Ma! I'm king of the world!)
And a lot of the P. has dudes doing nice things for ladies, at least for a minute. Maybe that's the right kind of education for some guys?
On the other hand, nowadays people seem much more interested in grooming the hair down there. That must be a P./photography thing.
Sorry if this belongs in the Men's room.
Thanks for your indulgence.
I am proposing that the techno-interpretation of it is as different from reality as spontaneous, genuinely-felt prayer is to a MegaChurch. But just like sweet people think the MegaChurch might bring them closer to God, well, you know...
I would also propose that a generational thing is happening.
Antique/retro P. had somewhat of an edge because it really had to be on the outer limits of freedom of speech.
It's just like so "soma."
And I know that we don't believe Wile E. Coyote is really getting smashed with that anvil.
It's different for girls, because of who writes, produces, and profits from it.
#unsexyMarxism
Thank you.
Humbly.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/third-female-lawmaker-introduces-bill-limit-men-viagra-204340160.html
"My Senate Bill 307 is all about the love and making sure we look out for men's sexual health."
By Ohio Representative Nina Turner
I know it is an intoxicating blend of unanswerable contradictions, forbidden truth, casual magic and unconscious desire and doubt, but that one part of it is really specific.
- complete shaving to the skin of entire pubic/butthole region, religiously and not even just for special occasions
- anal
I think internet porn is the reason for this. It's so pervasive and everywhere and makes the weirdest shit look like it's totally normal--imagine encountering that world at like age 12, of course you would think certain things were normal. I guess I don't have a judgment (who cares if you shave or think anal is not next-level), but to say that porn doesn't affect real people's lives, in this day and age (internet) especially, is bogus. If it's changed the shaving patterns of a generation of women, what else has it done?
Also totally down with RCH's unsexy marxist call: "It's different for girls, because of who writes, produces, and profits from it."