Please read this hilarious conversation between my friends and ex-coworkers Angela Bruno & Chris Ryan on “hipster rap” aka Amanda Blank, Kid Sister, Spank Rock, Kanye West (the hipsterest of all hipster rappers) and Cool Kids:
CR: People who ironically go to clubs usually make ironic club music which I usually react to with irony-free hate.
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Amen. Life is too short for doing this kind of ironic participation.
I think that irony (esp concerning music) is the way that people get into things while keeping themselves safely at an arm’s distance until it is acceptable (safe) enough to put down their arm. That way they can know all about it the minute it becomes cool, but not be seen as a overzealous geek prior to that moment.
i don’t quite get the backlash.
what is ironic about the cool kids. their music seems pretty sincere to me (if not their cool dude attire).
was it as equally as ironic/hipster to like tribe back in the day?
the concern is that this music is safer for the whiteys to like, right? that was the case with tribe, but tribe made good music. cool kids “black mags” is a pretty bumpin song to me.
people who like “real” hip hop don’t like this brand of hip hop? not hard enough? because it’s being sold to indie crowds? posturing? but hip hop is ALL about posturing.
steve u should read the thing – they are not dissing Cool Kids like that (other than the fact that Chris thinks they sound like Digable Planets, and that they spend too much money on streetwear) – that irony thing is more an in-general statement.
i like cool kids, too (i interviewed them for VIBE!:
http://www.vibe.com/news/news_headlines/2007/10/cool_kids_profile/
) , but i see the point – i think one of the main problems with so-called “hipster rap” is that a lot of what is touted lyrically is sort of coming from this sheltered standpoint (i.e. ppl raised in suburbs glorifying glocks) , or promoting stuff that ppl wouldn’t tolerate from non-hipster rappers – for instance, spank rock is 9000 times nastier than even lil wayne, half the time… but I’ve had arguments with ppl who like spank rock who think non hipster rappers are misogynistic, which is a double standard rooted in culture at best, in race at worst. So I guess I would say that sometimes, worse than any hipster rap (most of which I like a lot, including kid sister, spank rock, cool kids and kanye west) are FANS of hipster rap. LOLzerz!!!
Oh I read it!
i feel your comments.
spank rock is NASTY.
thanks for speaking on that.