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AM hours in nature by Medya

Posted on: May 10, 2005 1:02 PM

my photoblog known as Focused on the unfocused , has been nominated for many awards like photobloggies, Asian photoblog Award , National Public Radio's contest,and it been shown in an American TV for times in a month !
but exacly when I need my photoblog to be up ,so peopel can see it and vote for it , my damn hosting goes down ! as it was down during the last 4 contests and peopel couldnt see it to vote for me ,
and guess what ! yea yea , even this time , my hosting is down too ! I am the Ultimate Unlucky Photoblogger. ha ha
whatever ....

I love to go to mountain at morning ,I have taken too many photos in AM hours and it is so hard for me to choose some for this challange


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we sleeped the nigth in the mountain, and this is 7 Am, I was waken by the river's sound.

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It was 3 AM, I went out to capture this virgin snow.

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this photo was taken at 6.30 AM at the top of the mountain among the fogs ..it was so cold and coool !

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taken at the same day ,when I was coming down the mountain the sun had raised , it is about 8AM (can you see the Mosque at the top of the hill? )

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Comments:

Quite possibly the worst photos I've seen today. Sorry, Medya, I'm sure you're a cool cat, but "Focused on the unfocused ", I can sure see the unfocused part. These photos told me nothing except that you own or borrowed a camera that works.

Luv Ya Anyway,
Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 1:24 PM

Quite possibly the worst photos I've seen today. Sorry, Medya, I'm sure you're a cool cat, but "Focused on the unfocused ", I can sure see the unfocused part. These photos told me nothing except that you own, or borrowed a camera that works.

Luv Ya Anyway,
Joel

PS: I like your intro with the whole bragging thing, but please, if anyone out there ever sees me nominated for
"photobloggies, Asian photoblog Award , National Public Radio's contest,and it been shown in an American TV" Please wake me up and remind me to please not be so proud.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 1:27 PM

Yeah, that's right. I double posted. Only because of the goofy timer involved with the posting process. I tried to bring my old one back by stopping it in the browser, but alas, the timer thing. Now I look like a jerk. Anyways, Medya, now I told you twice.

xxxooo69,
Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 1:30 PM

I think you woulda looked like a jerk anyway, Joel.

Posted by: Steve Schroeder at May 10, 2005 1:37 PM

you didnt have to repeat it 3 times...

but I was nominated for many awards and I dont have to prove it.I can give you the URLS of the websites so you can see my name there.

but you are nothing to me except an asshole...

taking photo doenst mean that you buy a 1 million dolor camera and add foolish effects with photo shop

taking photo means hunting Scences....yep I dont afford a good camera...but I am a good hunter of nice scences....

You are an asshole Joel you know nothing about photography

Posted by: medya at May 10, 2005 1:41 PM

unfortuantely my hosting is down ... and I cant show you my other photos... everybody has loved my photos , this asshole joel was the first one i saw that didnt like it...that most probably is just destorying , so i dont get immunity.

Posted by: medya_17 at May 10, 2005 1:43 PM

oh Joel. I must agree with Steve and Medya on this one.

Posted by: ritchey at May 10, 2005 1:43 PM

awesome pictures! i really like the first and the last ones.

ps the other joel and i are not the same person. not to confuse anyone.

Posted by: joel (from NY) at May 10, 2005 1:50 PM

medya is the best.

Posted by: Justin at May 10, 2005 1:55 PM

I love the weird blobs of light in your pictures

Posted by: karina at May 10, 2005 2:08 PM

also, I didn't expect Iran to be so green!

Posted by: karina at May 10, 2005 2:10 PM

yeah... i feel like an idiot, i was surprised it snowed in iran. you'd think you could learn a lot by watching movies... but i guess not. anyhow.. lovely pictures!

Posted by: james at May 10, 2005 2:17 PM

I like Medya. I don't have a $1,000,000 camera, I have a borrowed one. My effects may be foolish, but they tell a story. Do yours? And I never, ever, called you, or anyone else an "asshole". As far as knowing "nothing about photography" You are right. Although I am married to a pro photographer, have an extensive photo portfolio, and took a couple classes, I will never call myself a pro. I just know what I think looks good when I see it.

Hope I get your vote,
Joel

PS: How funny would it be to have Medya post an MP3 screaming
"You are an asshole Joel you know nothing about photography"
in that Iranian accent. I'd sample that. That would be cool.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 2:21 PM

medya really nice photos, i love the 1st one
i hope u win this challange bc u deserve it!

Posted by: kajin at May 10, 2005 2:29 PM

James tahnk you, in fact it is Kurdistan that has snow ...Kurdistan is so nice...

oh i forgot to metnion some of my other honors, one of my photos been printed in JPG maganize...!

i never called myself a pro-photographer, I just said I have recived many Congratulations from Officlan - unoffcila and good photographers...

so i didnt expect such a offense from you MR Joel.

Posted by: medya at May 10, 2005 2:30 PM

and i dont have Iranian accent, I am a kurd ! my native langauge is kurdish not farsi. -you better learn it-

Posted by: medya at May 10, 2005 2:33 PM

Medya, I would like to kiss you on the forehead. CYBER KISS.

Posted by: Ritchey at May 10, 2005 2:43 PM

i LOVE the one with snow! it reminds me so much of this past winter when i'd walk home in the fresh snow just before the plow came at 5am. i didnt realize that was one of my archtypical morning images until i saw your photo.

(oh, yeah, now i want to go to kurdistan.)

Posted by: robin at May 10, 2005 2:45 PM

Medya, I would like to kiss Steve on the forehead. CYBER KISS.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 4:11 PM

The weird lights and fog and things kinda remind me of the photography of Phil Elverum.

http://krecs.com/microphones/lights.html

Posted by: Kevin Erickson at May 10, 2005 4:36 PM

Medya, don't let Joel wind you up. We all know he's a jerk. Your photos are lovely. I second Ritchey in the Cyber Kiss motion.

Posted by: willow at May 10, 2005 4:49 PM

I think that others have criticized in this forum and not been called assholes.

I think that Joel comes across as abrasive and silly while others may come across as arrogant, or sweet, or as imposters, or hypersexed... or sans any personality at all.

What Joel said in my opinion wasn't that bad (or deserving of the "asshole" comeback), it was just his opinion. We should all be able to state our opinion.

In my opinion Medya's photos are nice average photos of a beautiful place in the morning.

Posted by: Just My Opinion at May 10, 2005 4:51 PM

ahhh...the opinion of the anonymous poster. never any more irrelevant than now.

the best way to make your words hollow and without any meaning is to not stand by them.

Posted by: Steve Schroeder at May 10, 2005 4:59 PM

joel baby
i like your style most of the time dude
but harshing this kid's vibe is just not that cool
im sure your IRL (in real life) personality is not as harsh as you are coming off in this comment
i think that you should apologize for being so harsh
and dont be so defensive, bro
your photo is really good, i mean i really really like it, but i like it less when the next thing i click on has a harshy from you as the first comment.
brother dude of the universe, quell your tongue, before it is the ruin of you
i like most of your blunt posts, for real. this one just seems below the belt, for real.
medya is a nice young dude from another place. the fact that he is blogging at all is awesome. the fact that he takes lots of pictures to show the rest of the world the reality of where he lives and what his culture might be about, no matter how immature you think they are, is impressive.
so just take a fucking smoke break man, before you wreck yo'self

love
adam forkner

Posted by: Adam Forkner at May 10, 2005 5:24 PM

Thanks for the advice, Adam, well put. I'll think about it. I forgot for a second that I was addressing a 19 year old kid, trapped in a lousy country where hardships must run amuck. I will control the flow, to the best of my ability.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 5:40 PM

Sorry, Medya, I mean it. I appreciate your eligibility in this contest and would like to invite you to join my super-alliance. Hit me at straightup@mac.com. Anytime.

Your Infidel,
Joel Conrad Bechtolt

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 5:43 PM

id be very careful before calling either Iran or Kurdistan a lousy country Joel. i, for one, would be very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful.

Posted by: james at May 10, 2005 5:49 PM

BTW: I am not "Just My Opinion" the anonymous poster Steve mentioned, I sign my name to everything. Hey Steve, what are you wearing right now? Damn, that sounds HOT!

Never Anonymous,
Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 5:55 PM

"id be very careful before calling either Iran or Kurdistan a lousy country Joel. i, for one, would be very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful."

You would be "very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful"? Is that what you said? I wouldn't be "very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful" I find all cultures, and countries, rich and beautiful. But man, living in Iran, even with the newly established embracing of the arts, c'mon! HE'S IN IRAN. THEY CUT THINGS OFF OF YOU IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU DID. Ask him. It's true.

Out Like Salaman Rushdie,
Joel Conrad Bechtolt

PS: Bring on the Fatwa's. I'm ready.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 6:03 PM

"id be very careful before calling either Iran or Kurdistan a lousy country Joel. i, for one, would be very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful."

You would be "very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful"? Is that what you said? I wouldn't be "very hard pressed to think of countries or cultures as rich or as beautiful" I find all cultures, and countries, rich and beautiful. But man, living in Iran, even with the newly established embracing of the arts, c'mon! HE'S IN IRAN. THEY CUT THINGS OFF OF YOU IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU DID. Ask him. It's true.

Out Like Salman Rushdie,
Joel Conrad Bechtolt

PS: Bring on the Fatwa's. I'm ready.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 6:03 PM

My government is diffrent than me , everybody knows iranians dont agree with their governemnet....do you really offend to me for my government ?

i have already told you that I am not even muslem bu t RAcist Americans dont even undrestand it...they look at every middle eastern in the way they want.

you must have a study of the diffrence of Kurds and Arabs and Iranians....

Posted by: medya at May 10, 2005 6:10 PM

Umm, Jona, your posting delay is a problem. Just look up. There you go. I warned you. If the idea was "think before you speak", shouldn't you be able to retract while the initial post was sent during the "time-out" period? For example: I sent my post, realized I had misspelled something, say, for instance, the name of "Salman Rushdie" I hit the stop on Safari, (the "x") thinking that I can skirt the the delay on posting. But guess what, it stalled, then posted both. Sorry man, I told you so. I get the idea of time-based censorship, but if you're gonna do it, make it work. No, I mean really work. You guys are better than this...

(Here I go, I'm gonna try and post now. http://www.urbanhonking.com/ultimateblogger/den/ is slow as shit, but the rest of the 'net ain't. Call me crazy)

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 6:10 PM

woooooooooooooooow
there are the best pictures ever
omg i love them soooooooooooooo much
i love the one with snow falling down thats like so romantic and at the same time so cold
how did u take that pic?
its so cool that you can actually see the snow falling down thats what makes it beatiful
the first picture is goooood too
i mean look at that who wouldnt love it
i mean the river the grass its so green and the tree in the middle of the mountain thats amazing
nice picture
i also love the third one because of the fog
wow in general your pictures are really great
i love them ...
hope to see more ;)
good luck in the future .....

Posted by: tarlan at May 10, 2005 6:14 PM

I am not a racist. If you were in Portland tonight, I would cook for you. I do not understand your culture. I know nothing of offense. I do not know the difference between Kurds, Arabs, and Iranians. Anyone who says they do, is a liar unless they have lived there. I respect you, Medya, and do not place your governments mistakes onto your back. Please believe me.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 6:14 PM

Joel,
Jona has nothing to do with the "time based censorship." It is part of Movable Type to curb spam comments, of which urbanhonking gets hundreds a day.
It's not censorship at all. We are not stopping you from commenting.

Posted by: Steve Schroeder at May 10, 2005 7:01 PM

Ya ya ya,
Joel has no filter, I've known the asshole for over 20 years, but come on people. The first image is composed well and has a nice feel to it, but the rest are nothing remarkable. Skweeky wheel needs a greesin'. Why give this kid a bunch of hot air in his ass instead of an honest opinion? The truth hurts some times. Good art is damn near impossible. Don't stop trying, just do better.
-Jussi

Posted by: Jussi at May 10, 2005 7:23 PM

Steve, I apologize, I was wrong. Thank you for clarifying. Next, Jussi, my bro, this might be the first time we've agreed in years.

Don't Stop Believin'
Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 7:30 PM

Are these digicam pics or regular film? Some are criticizing the quality of the pictures, but the medium itself is often important (being said as someone who can't take film pics for shit).

The snow pic is probably the best out of the lot, save the blurriness in the corner there.

Photoblogging...who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: karsh at May 10, 2005 8:27 PM


" I do not know the difference between Kurds, Arabs, and Iranians. Anyone who says they do, is a liar unless they have lived there."


Hey Joel,

it seems like you are a guy with a lot of time on his hands, who also has a strong affection for possibilities of cyberspace.
I get the sense that you come to this electrical web looking for hope. I think that's why we all come here.

One of the cool things about this internet thing, is that it goes both directions. You can throw your ideas into it, reaching out for connection. You can also go looking around to find some of the things that you might not already have.
For example, the definition of a Kurd, an Iranian, and an Arab-- and not just from an online dictionary, from a direct response from an actual Iranian Kurd! Doesn't that seem even a little bit more appealing to you than writing harsh notes to people you don't even really know?


We are here, and ready to know you.


--khaela

Posted by: khaela at May 10, 2005 9:27 PM

Want to know something about the differences of/between Kurds and the countries that lay claim to Kurdistan? - read Medya's blog for a post or two. It's a helluva window into a piece of the world most Americans don't know much about.
Joel's begging to be put down. Too much nonsense prattle, too much narcicissm, not enough substance. I compel the would-be Ultimate Bloggers to dump him.

Posted by: Pete Cornell at May 10, 2005 10:13 PM

Oh my god,
Is this the real girl? I love the songs you and Jona make. I put them on all my mix cd's. I love you. I love The Blow. Thank you for your opinion. I will respect it.

I LOVE YOU!

-Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 10:16 PM

Too bad Pete can't vote. Sorry, dude.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 10, 2005 10:20 PM

Joel, dude, you've got to figure out your double-posting sitch. It is not a technical glitch or a conspiracy that you can't "hit the "x" on Safari"; there is no"time out period." That's not how it works--once you've hit submit, it's out of your control. It's not time-based censorship, it's just how the internet works.

Posted by: freddy at May 10, 2005 10:51 PM

Hey Joel,

want to prove to me that you got the point of my email?

What is the difference between a Kurd, an Iranian, and an Arab?

--Khaela

Posted by: khaela at May 10, 2005 11:54 PM

thanks pete... im glad you mentioned it. i've been compelled to do just that since before the competition even started. unfortunately it seems that strategy has compelled certain participants to vote otherwise. sorry... i've done my best, but i'm only one vote.

khaela... i totally dig 'magic: the gathering'; it makes me happy that you and jona have recognized the playa's...

joel... your HP is low. better come up with a good reply (and please cite your sources).

Posted by: james at May 11, 2005 12:42 AM

khaela- i think i have an idea, but i'd like to know what u have to say x

(did u see the Iraqi film 'Turtles Can Fly' about a group of Kurds living on the Turkish border at the outbreak to the war in iraq? amazing)

Posted by: unemployed at May 11, 2005 2:23 AM

actually, medya was just recommending that movie to me... i hear its great. Bahman Ghobadi also directed 'a time for drunken horses', which is fabulous! (and apparently he was in 'the wind will carry us' as well... though i can't figure out who he was)

Posted by: james at May 11, 2005 2:42 AM

khaela,
I still don't know. I admit it. I still love you, and The Blow.
Love You,
Joel

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 11, 2005 3:12 AM

The Blow made me dance for the first time in a long while.

Posted by: Joel Conrad Bechtolt at May 11, 2005 6:36 AM

james- have u checked out tsai ming lang's films? he's probably the most famous taiwanese director (u are in taiwan arent u?)

Posted by: unemployed at May 11, 2005 10:18 AM

medya
I really like the 3rd pic down, of the misty hillside. so green and magic and deep.
americans are notoriously stinky at geography(history too, but especially geography). and our country is so big people feel they can ignore the rest of the world. Internets are so good to learn about multiple points of view, and to get crucial stats fast. Part of why I'm glad you're in this competition, when it actually holds some danger for you.

Posted by: hason at May 11, 2005 10:35 AM

Medya,
I dig your pictures but I think your entry would have benefitted from condensing the images into a one-page montage like Mimi used. One thing you need to be aware of when making a blog entry, or really making any sort of web page, is the size of a standard computer screen and the patience of people to scroll down through image after image. Turning the pictures into a 4 image tiled montage not only would have condensed the pictures into a smaller, more user-friendly space, but would have played up the contrast between the sunny/snowy/foggy images. Anyway, just a suggestion.

Posted by: Craig at May 11, 2005 10:57 AM

about kurdish movies, I've just heard of a new one. The name is "Kilometre Zero" and it's about an iraki kurd who has to go fight the iranians during the 1988 war. Of course he hates it and tries to find a way back home, any way.

That's it... I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds good and is in the Cannes film festival competition this week.

Oh and actually I know someone who worked on that movie so perhaps i'm advertising a little.

All my respect to Medya. Good work, man !

Posted by: boggart at May 11, 2005 11:08 AM

unemployed.... yeah.... i love tsai ming liang!! my friend was in 'wayward cloud', which is fabulous!!!! (he's the one blowing fire when Yi-Ching Lu does her dance number)

Posted by: james at May 11, 2005 5:31 PM

we showed 'the river' as part of a free film screening programme in london and so many people freaked out and left! there is something extremely weird about the mood (and the content) of that film- but something amazing going on. its really difficult to get hold of his films here tho- noone distributes on vhs or dvd so u have to do festivals (like berlin- i think that was where wayward cloud was last shown in europe) or wait for somewhere like the national film theatre to re-show. Did u see 'goodbye dragon inn?"

Posted by: unemployed at May 12, 2005 2:11 AM

yeah, i bought the double dvd which includes Kang-sheng Lee's the missing". both were great. the only ones i haven't seen are 'the skywalk is gone' and ''boys'. you can find his films for really good prices here (2-3 USD), but the only versions with english subtitles are really expensive (imported from hong-kong), and only his more famous ones are available this way. Actually, if 'the wayward cloud' hadn't done so well in berlin, it wouldn't have even played here. there is some new developments in taiwan, censorship wise, and they felt the filim was much to graphic and tried to get him to change a lot of the film. he agreed to edit out a little bit of the male frontal nudity, but threatened to never show it in taiwan if they asked for anymore.

Posted by: james at May 12, 2005 4:55 AM