Comments on: Zombies http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/ Gesamtkunstblog Wed, 07 Jul 2021 19:45:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Nick http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-287 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:47:20 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-287 Oops, should read:

Perhaps it is our films WHICH are the zombies- once creative but NOW simply corpses reanimated by and for profit.

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By: Nick http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-286 Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:44:38 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-286 Excellent analysis! However, I hold that the popularity of zombies is due to the sheer laziness of the American entertainment consumer. We no longer wish to be challenged- see every ridiculous Hollywood remake, reboot, retread of the last 10 years. We seem to want repetitive entertainment with predictable conclusions. We’re stuck in a cultural cul-de-sac, with no way out. Look at the upcoming Tron rehash: the original sucked, is boring as hell, but at least had cutting-edge graphics. The new one will basically use the SAME graphics, only wth better product placement. Perhaps it is our films whcih are the zombies- once creative but not simply corpses reanimated by and for profit.

Back to zombies. Americans like to see people- or zombiefied people- getting shot. The fact that the zombies are deemed in/sub-human removes any icky moral feelings. If anything, our entertainment culture has conditioned us to wish that we could all shoot someone- it looks like so much fun on-screen- but most of us still realize we cannot act on this impulse, so zombies will have to do.

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By: Trina http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-281 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:54:35 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-281 I liked this:

“And, even if individual zombies are sometimes easy to kill, that’s still not the point. The point is that the zombies are not individuals, they are more like an aspen grove. They are one horrible roiling organism, all of them at once, in dreadful togetherness.”

because it reminded me of the thought I had at the very end of the premiere of The Walking Dead, wherein Our Hero is trapped in the tank while the zombies swarm around eating his horse — that the zombies resembled nothing so much as an ant colony. You kill a few, but the sheer numbers of them are overwhelming in their massive mindlessness.

But mainly I’m commenting to point out that Chuck Klosterman started his writing career with this kind of hipster presumptuousness (he ran a supplement in our local paper and nobody knew how he got the job) and obviously he’s never learned better. And yet he’s in the New York Times. If there’s little appreciation of true talent in the media, there’s even less punishment for lack of talent.

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By: Kaye http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-277 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 00:39:32 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-277 Most excellent! For me, zombie fiction was taken to another level with The Living Dead and The Living Dead 2 short story anthologies. These ain’t your momma’s zombie stories. Also, some of the best short stories I have ever read, period.

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By: Lizzie http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-275 Mon, 06 Dec 2010 02:48:35 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-275 Do you know about the nascent Journal of Dracula Studies?
http://call-for-papers.sas.upenn.edu/node/39434

You should contribute! Or at least come up with a punny paper title, e.g., “Bela Lugosi’s Shed: the Epistemology of Backyard Vampire Storage.”

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By: mokin http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-274 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 20:59:41 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-274 Your list of things people are afraid of would be better if it was like this:
– people
– science
– Jaws

Also, why can’t you read NYT articles? You don’t need to be a subscriber to have a NYT account, it’s free!

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By: Yours Truly http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-273 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:54:39 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-273 Great points! I think you’re totally right. I have definitely thought about the individuality of the vampire vs. the zombie before, because of the zombie as “mass culture fear,” but I never put it as specifically/eloquently as you just did. Non-sexual reproduction! So great.

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By: Jamie http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/2010/12/05/zombies/#comment-272 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:26:39 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/regarding/?p=113#comment-272 This post is awesome! Although I think one of the crucial steps between vampires being the bastion of fears about the aristocracy and Jews and vampires being just about boners was the AIDS crisis and gay panic of the 80s and 90s. It’s just that now, instead of the fear of the Eastern/Jewish interloper whose threat manifests in his thirst for real estate and his ability to corrupt virgins, we just have the fear of vampires either making people gay (The Lost Boys) or breaking girls’ purity pledges (the Twilight franchise). So in a way, we’re more Victorian now than ever.

I do think Klosterman gets one important distinction between vampires and zombies right, though: vampires can be eroticized and individualized and zombies cannot. So while the vampire is so great (and so enduring) because, as you say, it makes us think about the relationship between sin and the afterlife AND the consequences of “inappropriate/unnatural” sexual contact, the zombie is enduring because of what it has to say at different historical moments about the sameness between life and death, the power/threat of masses, and non-sexual (AKA capitalist) reproduction–a kind of instantaneous, undying, unconscious, repetitive, non-consensual genesis.

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