Comments on: iPads in Space: Star Trek’s Internet-Free Future http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/ Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:26:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Gabriel http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-80031 Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:26:37 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-80031 The first tablets were not created by Microsoft and Intel; they were created by ancient civilizations. Tablet technology was a critical step in the transition from oral to written culture. If we look at the larger function of tablets historically they were used to write and communicate data temporarily. In this regard, the permanence of Star Trek tablets definitely comes off as unusual, regardless of the lack of internet.

With the internet, the temporary nature of the tablet’s historical use case returns, but with a twist. The internet enables one tablet computer to be used for multiple different things simultaneously. This introduces a new variable into the dynamics of tablet user experience: distraction.

What we could be asking ourselves is: why didn’t Star Trek predict the fact that people in the future would be losing the ability to maintain eye contact, carry on deep conversations and generally be in the present moment?

Perhaps the bizarrely antiquarian analog quality of the tablet technology in Star Trek is a cautionary tale. Ever notice how intense some of the passages of dialogue are on Star Trek? Long stretches of emotive exchanges, with generous pauses underpinned by the hum of the space ship. This isn’t just good drama or storytelling, it may also be a good archetype for genuine human interaction at times.

Full disclosure: my company is currently developing a new whiteboard tablet technology. This article jumped out at me because just yesterday we released this teaser video, A Brief History of the Tablet: https://vimeo.com/98473277

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By: Eric Slattery http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-19588 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:31:10 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-19588 I guess i will say it first……..but the iPad was NOT the first tablet. Microsoft and Intel created the first tablets back in 1999-2001. iPad was popularized as the industry grew at least 6 years later. They had been working on it for quite some time, but they were certainly not even close to being inspired by Star Trek. Intel and Microsoft were inspired and then Apple had to try and one up them and make their own. Same goes for today with Apple TV and the Xbox One. Please do a little more analysis into what you are talking about before you spout a very incomplete story.

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By: Jon Webb http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15329 Wed, 15 May 2013 23:55:16 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15329 …something that Star Trek never used, by the way. They had the “captains log, supplemental” for that purpose.

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By: Jon Webb http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15328 Wed, 15 May 2013 23:48:40 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15328 I’m pretty sure the “now hacking pentagon” graphics were purely ignorance of the movie makers as well as the general public at the time.

But sometimes cheesy works well to set the scene. How many movies and shows today still use “teletype” in the lower third to indicate a location or date? Usually with equally cheesy digital bleeps. Unrealistic, but it works. It preps the audience for something techy to come.

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By: Mort http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15326 Wed, 15 May 2013 22:37:14 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15326 Who needs the Internet for data storage when they have “Data”? And didn’t Dick Tracy have a wristwatch T.V. / phone long before the communicator? but didn’t Uhura work with a blue tooth earpiece?

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By: greg http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15325 Wed, 15 May 2013 22:26:53 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15325 You’re definitely right that there’s a storytelling bias behind this choice. That’s a good point.

But I think you could say the same thing for the cliched “NOW HACKING PENTAGON” progress bars and other nonsense that used to make up computer UIs in movies. Those were there because the filmmakers were afraid that the audience wouldn’t be able to follow the storytelling points happening through the computer UI. We’ve only just reached a point where everyone is so familiar with computers that those kinds of shortcuts have become embarrassingly comical (I’d date the moment change to David Fincher’s The Social Network, but you could probably pick other points).

And I think we’ve reached a similar point with Internet usage. Obviously the Internet was around during the 80s and 90s when TNG and DS9 were airing. As I mentioned in the post, I’ll bet the writers of Star Trek were right there with you as early adopters using i. However, it’s now reached a point of ubiquity and comfort for the viewing audience that the lack of it on these shows is starting to seem like a historical artifact of the time of the shows’ creation. The idea of starship captains in the 24th century operating in a way that looks more like mid-century
generals or businessmen is getting increasingly bizarre as the 21st century marches on.

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By: Jon Webb http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15324 Wed, 15 May 2013 22:12:09 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15324 Nice theory, but…

I remember watching The Next Generation when it first aired. Captain Picard was handed a crew report on a PADD. Perhaps I was ahead of my time, but I remember thinking “why didn’t he just pull it up on his own PADD?”

So the technology certainly was already within reach, even back in the 80’s.

Then I realized: it doesn’t make good storytelling. The viewer doesn’t want to see Picard searching for a file or syncing his PADD with somebody else. That isn’t what a starship captain does. He is handed reports, takes important decisions and gives commands, which his crew dutifully execute. That’s what the story is about.

The same goes for async communications. Reports often “come in” to the bridge from sickbay or engineering or “all decks”. The audience doesn’t care about the message, or the medium, but about the characters and the plot. When it makes sense for the story, the characters are shown in real time (“video chat”) and can talk. When it doesn’t, reports “come in”.

And as for the internet: it certainly did exist. We just didn’t call it that yet. We called it Usenet, uucp, FidoNet etc, depending on your particular flavor.

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By: greg http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15282 Tue, 14 May 2013 21:22:47 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15282 Well, I think both the replicator and the transporter are pretty good. But I’m always frustrated with how un-creatively they use both of them. Why even bother having giant starships full of thousands of people that are constantly getting blown up? Why not just send out a relay network of long distance autonomous satellites and then beam through them when you want to end up somewhere.

And same thing with replicators. Every third DS9 episode is about some kind of intrigue with cargo or the cargo holds. Why are they physically carting around so much stuff instead of replicating it? Is it really harder to replicate “gold-pressed latinum” than complex food stuffs that have the right chemical composition to get various races drunk?

The replicators and transporters seem to have replaced certain kinds of human labor without actually altering the structure of society or culture much.

I definitely agree that a lot of this is to tell a better story. DS9 might be better sci-fi if it was utterly alien, but it would be probably significantly worse drama.

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By: Jem Axelrod http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/2013/05/14/ipads-in-space-star-treks-internet-free-future/#comment-15281 Tue, 14 May 2013 21:08:15 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/ideasfordozens/?p=698#comment-15281 My Newton had three web browsers on it! One was pretty good, too, mostly limited by the network speed.

Don’t you think this is not only a paradigm problem, but a Paramount problem? To this day, big media conglomerates want to anchor bits to atoms. What is revolutionary in the Star Trek universe is the replicator – 3D printing’s apotheosis. Atoms are essentially bits in Star Trek’s world because it is so easy to copy things. Maybe by the 23rd century, our obsession with virtuality and the digital will be seen as a product of our Internet blinders – we can only imagine ubiquitous copying of data, not (like those prescient Star Trek folks) physical objects.

Anyway, the rebooted Battlestar Galactica showed us what happens if you let the Internet onto your starship. It’s not pretty.

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