Hate Knives? – Hot Knives http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:47:31 +0000 en-US hourly 1 LA Times Food Blog Leaves Bad Taste http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/07/15/la_times_food_blog_leaves_bad/ http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/07/15/la_times_food_blog_leaves_bad/#comments Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:51:56 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/07/15/la_times_food_blog_leaves_bad/ Continue reading ]]> Blogging%20Wars%201.jpg
Here in L.A., the fish wrap of record — for restaurant reviews as much as for local news — remains the Los Angeles Times. Every Wednesday we skip the front page over coffee and turn straight to the weekly Food section. Though wincingly pedigreed at times, most of the critiques and recipe writing are juicy, educational and in step with leading trends. Plus the pictures are food porn perfect.
Last month, the food section launched a blog, called “The Daily Dish” — the latest in the paper’s interactive campaign to beef up its web publishing (and advertising revenue). We got giddy at first, revved at the idea that the Times food writers we read every week would be joining the blogosphere, granting readers and other food bloggers a discussion forum larger than most of our individual blogs. But after watching the blog for the last week or two, we’re not sure the editorial staff really wants to be blogging, and if they even know what the implications of that are, or whether these old-school print journalism foodies are being forced by management to half-heartedly blog. At least from the interaction we’ve had with the site it seems that the project is just the latest in a string of sorry, superficial makeovers rather than monumental shifts at the paper.
If you asked the Times lead restaurant critic S. Irene Virbila (known in some kitchen circles as “the Snake”) what she thought the purpose of the blog was, what would she say? Hard to tell: So far she’s mostly shared tips for obscure wines. Other writers have chimed in with advice on hot spots and products, not far from what they offer weekly in the paper, except for heightened level of restaurant gossip. Are these staffers interested in getting feedback, comments and even tips from their devoted foodie readers? Are they interested in building relationships with the dozens of established food bloggers who already cover kitchen equipment, French cheese, dessert recipes and beer in a non-competitive, information-share environment?
Nope, not interested.
We recently commented on a posting by beverage writer Charles Perry. (Read full exchange here.) He does the beer and spirits, so we’ve read his byline closely in the past. A week ago he gave a lengthy recommendation for “The Beer Guppy’s Guide to Southern California,” by Jay Sheveck. It’s one of those comprehensive bible to the beer scene kinda things. We respectfully suggested that the number of beer blogs that cover L.A. and SoCal are also great resources for free. We listed a couple like Hair of the Dog Dave, Beer Chick, and ours. Since “The Daily Dish” links to only the most mainstream of L.A. food blogs we figured it’d be worth pointing readers to. (Six hours later our comment finally got published.)
And Perry did not agree. Though blogs can be “updated instantly,” he responded, “they are still a long way from replacing books. So far, no beer blog I’ve seen even tries to be a comprehensive reference.” He had a point, beer bloggers of all people are not known to painstakingly collect hours of operation, they generally will link to a breweries website where all that information sits instead. We felt that missed the larger point: that there are hundreds of blogs that people can peruse for different opinions, for insider tips, for feature writing on brewery tours, for homebrew advice; all the stuff that this one thin volume attempts to wrap with a bow. In the print version of the paper, we would never expect blog mention, but why not online?
“What is often missed in this print-to-blog mentality,” we commented, “is that one ‘definitive’ source rarely beats 1,000 sources.”
No further comments from Perry (or any other readers for that matter) until a day later when this email turns up in the Hot Knives inbox, presumably by accident! It seems to be email correspondence from Perry to a web editor who asked about the exchange. Either way it reeks of condescension.
“This guy is getting tiresome. I know he wants us to pay attention to blogs, but in this context what they’re doing is totally different from what Sheveck’s book is doing, so why should we? And his big point doesn’t impress me much. If you’ve got the time to comb through a thousand sources, and the energy to evaluate them, more power to you. If not, life goes on. I think this is a rather young person.”
If leaving 2 comments, not much more than 100 words, makes us “tiresome,” that doesn’t bode well for Perry’s career as a blogger. And if he really wants to pull the age card and paint himself as a geezer Republican, that’s his choice.
It says a lot about where he is coming from. He’s used to being the on-high editorial judgment about all things beverage for the biggest paper on the West Coast and he doesn’t have to listen to, or engage, the wise-ass suggestions of a couple eager-to-discuss-beer readers. Blogging, by this view, will always be inferior because it’s the practice of non-professionals and gives voice to many people’s opinions rather than a few. That’s fine. We just always thought that’s what blogs had going for them.
We wish Charles Perry good luck teaching himself a new trick and will return to perusing our peers’ good-natured discussion of food and beer.

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Retraction http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/01/06/retraction/ http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/01/06/retraction/#respond Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:46:13 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2007/01/06/retraction/ Continue reading ]]> vegan cheese1.jpg
Dairy-less Dudes, infinite apologies for yesterday’s post’s incorrect categorization of Premium soy-Sation cheeses as “vegan.” Somewhere in between the cascade filtered water and the brown rice flour, casein dairy protein was hiding. And their non-functioning website didn’t help matters. But thanks for the heads-up “Protein-less in Portland,” you saved our sorry asses from another minute of vegan blog humiliation. In any case, our bad.
Perhaps that explains why it melts so fucking well, ehhh? Selah.
HK

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New Section: Hot Knives Hate Mail http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/11/new_section_hot_knives_hate_ma/ http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/11/new_section_hot_knives_hate_ma/#respond Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:23:28 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/11/new_section_hot_knives_hate_ma/ Continue reading ]]> hottest kniveshottest kniveshottest kniveshottest kniveshottest kniveshottest knives
We’ve yet to recieve much in the way of hate mail, but when the second angry letter rolled in this week we decided it was time to unveil an entire section of the blog dedicated to it.
Here’s our latest fan:
You two faggots couldn’t make a beerfart in a bathtub. If you could, and bottled it, it would probably taste better than this crap. Good soundtrack choice for you homos though. Sister Nancy. I can’t imagine two bigger nancies than you. Are you really sisters?
Deb
chubbi_debbi@hotmail.com

And here’s an old favorite that we call “Vegan Fury” from a reader back in March:
Dear Mr. Brown,
I read your “Hot Knives” recipe column “Tofu Stroganoff” with interest, and I am a vegan who doesn’t poison himself, only to find the recipe includes an egg, a stick of butter, and wine.
Eggs are the product of callous humans caging up birds. Butter is ditto from cows. After these fellow creatures are no longer useful, they are sent to slaughterhouses (perhaps to make pet food).
Wine is from vegan sources, then fermented to produce alcohol, a poison!
Slaughtered creatures are filled with poison: cholesterol, adrenaline (from fear), etc.
Cash-wise, a healthy vegan diet does not cost nearly as much as an omnivore one does. Honey too is not vegan, as bees suffer in the wooden hives human omnivores have built. Add sea salt and wisdom, and everyone will be happy except the butchers et al.

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“Hot Buttered Cornholes” http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/06/hot_buttered_cornholes/ http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/06/hot_buttered_cornholes/#respond Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:45:06 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/08/06/hot_buttered_cornholes/ Continue reading ]]> Pink KnivezzzPink KnivezzzPink KnivezzzPink KnivezzzPink KnivezzzPink Knivezzz
We may have opened the flood gates… keep that hate mail coming boyz!
I have to aree with “Deb” on this one. You two couldn’t cook if (insert you favorite high-profile chef name here) was there helping you. Your recipes are really inane and poorly made. and I had to stop looking back through your archived recipes twice to go and puke. But this one takes the cake! (get it? Cake? And ice cream?) Beer ice cream from you two fills my head with images of walking around all day with the strange taste of ass in my mouth. And nothing I can do to get rid of it.

And speaking of ass, I must also agree with Deb about you obvious sexual preference and your mutual attraction for eachother. Maybe instead of “Hotknives” you guys should call yourselves “Hot Buttered Cornholes”.
Robert Saunders

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Veegan Fury http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/03/11/veegan_fury/ http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/03/11/veegan_fury/#respond Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:23:28 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/hotknives/2006/03/11/veegan_fury/ Continue reading ]]> Dear Mr. Brown,
I read your “Hot Knives” recipe column “Tofu Stroganoff” with interest, and I am a vegan who doesn’t poison himself, only to find the recipe includes an egg, a stick of butter, and wine.
Eggs are the product of callous humans caging up birds. Butter is ditto from cows. After these fellow creatures are no longer useful, they are sent to slaughterhouses (perhaps to make pet food).
Wine is from vegan sources, then fermented to produce alcohol, a poison!
Slaughtered creatures are filled with poison: cholesterol, adrenaline (from fear), etc.
Cash-wise, a healthy vegan diet does not cost nearly as much as an omnivore one does. Honey too is not vegan, as bees suffer in the wooden hives human omnivores have built. Add sea salt and wisdom, and everyone will be happy except the butchers et al.
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