Comments on: hot hot summer in hell: A VERY RAMBLING ROSE

By: a pedant

a pedant — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:33:01 +0000

Maybe I’m confused, but did you just imply that Premo produced “Ante Up”? That was DR Period.

By: jeff

jeff — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:59:25 +0000

whoops. sorry for the double post.

By: jeff

jeff — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:58:38 +0000

No no no no! I gotta hasten to clarify what I meant. I certainly don’t want to make it sound as if it was like Gen X was all in the streets and shit. I meant activist in a broad broad way–the sense of activating for, in the same sense Harry Allen originally meant it, not necessarily ideologically but just in terms of rap in general.
i mainly pointed the stuff out because i think i’m seeing young aesthetes turning into advocates. i think what us geezoids who came of age in the 80s and early 90s had on our shoulder was a huge-ass ton-weighing uzi we were daring outsiders–usually boomers–to knock off, and mostly it had to do with our underground (folks used to call them sub)cultures–such as hip-hop and indie rock (when it was not yet grunge and still indie).
and i should also hasten to add that this is my peculiar p.o.v. i think the older we all get, the better we look to ourselves back then. per pete ranter, i’d like to be the branch not pruned, and i will be very happy with some of these new leaves, but i think some of my peers have been sawing themselves off the tree.

By: jeff

jeff — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:57:05 +0000

By: CDotBaker

CDotBaker — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:02:52 +0000

Hey, it was bright in there.

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:49:39 +0000

Being somewheres in between (as you are) the two proposed generations of rap crits, it doesn’t seem to me anything new or particularly interesting to dwell on– whether young journos aren’t digging deep enough or whether old dusties can write to young ears and eyes. Or whether current hip-hop is killing non-current hip-hop (read: Neil Young writing “Southern Man” and his new Bush-bashing album cuz Southerners ‘r’ dumb and the kids don’t care). You want to write about sociopolitics in rap, do it. There are plenty of straws to pull from Jeezy and Papoose in regards to current socio-political climates. Then try to do it in 150-400 words. I wish you luck. This also renames the shift to the next generation–which might coincide for the first time with the move into irrelevance of any of the previous ones– as some sort of death instead of allowing for the geneology to branch. Keep the ugly new growth clipped to trunk for appearance’s sake but soon enough they’ll be sprouting off too high for your pruners. By you, I mean not you, dear Shep. And I just decided to end this rant and go outside.