Josh – 1000 Beers http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers These Beers Won't Drink Themselves Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:35:15 +0000 en-US hourly 1 Teaching you a lot about beer http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2013/01/20/teaching-you-a-lot-about-beer/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2013/01/20/teaching-you-a-lot-about-beer/#respond Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:46:23 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/?p=121 Continue reading ]]> Date: September 16, 2011
Location: Josh’s house
Present: Josh Berezin, Mike Merrill

 

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102/1000: Anchor Small from Anchor Brewing
JB: “Small.” I remember Anchor refers to this beer as coming out of some very old tradition, but no one else makes one now.
MM: They could call it anything they want, since they’re the only ones making it. “The tradition of brewing two distinct beers from one mash has existed for thousands of years.”
JB: Thousands!
MM: “And for centuries, the term ‘small beer’ was used to describe the lighter, and weaker second beer.”
JB: But we won’t tell you what it was called before that.
MM: The first beer that they make with the mash is the Old Foghorn Barleywine Style Ale.
JB: So, something really strong.
MM: Yeah. “Anchor Small Beer is our attempt to duplicate the ‘small’ beers of old by sparging that same mash.” Do you want to know what sparging is?
JB: I’m not sure I do.
MM: I’m going to tell you anyway. “Sparging is sprinkling warm water over the warm mash after the first wort has run off.”
JB: Yeah, I didn’t want to know that.
MM: They’re teaching you a lot about beers in this very short description.
JB: Aren’t they America’s oldest microbrewer?
MM: Yeah, they make a bunch of spirits, too. Old Portero whiskey, I think? And they do a gin or a rum as well.
JB: Well, what do you think?
MM: For all of its wonderful descriptions, great bottle size and shape, it’s a pretty uninteresting beer.
JB: I disagree. I don’t find it uninteresting, but I don’t find it delicious.
MM: When I drink it, it barely even tastes like beer.
JB: But it has an aftertaste that really hangs around, and now that I know it’s from a barleywine base, I detect that. This isn’t one I’d buy again. I do like Anchor Steam quite a bit.
MM: I think it’s a good idea for them, since they have that first wort around, they might as well use it.
JB: They’re the original recyclers.
MM: But the concept is stronger than the beer.

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Will you ever drink this beer again? http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2011/09/12/will-you-ever-drink-this-beer-again/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2011/09/12/will-you-ever-drink-this-beer-again/#comments Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:24:10 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/?p=101 Continue reading ]]> Date: August 18, 2011
Location: Saraveza
Present: Josh Berezin, Mike Merrill

 

JB: Ooh, they have Racer X on tap today. Oh, wait, it’s “Racer IV” from Bear Republic. It’s an IPA. I won’t get that, cause you won’t like it.
MM: What is with the obsession with hops?
JB: It’s not an obsession!
MM What is it, then?
JB: It’s a preference.
MM: No,  it’s a macho beer maker bullshit thing. It’s like how big your balls are.
JB: IPA is a pretty mainstream style of beer.
MM: I agree, and there are some that I like, but the trend and obsession is with pushing that. To the undrinkable.
JB: Okay, for instance, the Dogfish Head 120 Minute IPA is undrinkable and that’s a pretty high profile beer.
MM: Is there a 60- and a 90-minute?
JB: Yes, and the 60-minute is amazing.
MM: And the 90?
JB: The 90 is an adventure. It’s not undrinkable. Well, now I have to order this IPA.
MM: And I also know what I’m getting.
JB: Oh, you’re getting the Lambic! Your sour obsession. This actually qualifies more as an obsession.
MM: But it is not the prevalent trend. It is more of a fad.


99/1000: Racer IV from Bear Republic

MM: Have we done this one before?
JB: No, why do you ask?
MM: Well, it tastes and smells familiar. This is good, though.
JB: So, what are we supposed to say about this? Notes of leather and burnt wood?
MM: “Fenty.” I feel like this a solidly unremarkable beer.
JB: I was going to say something along the same lines. That it was a good drinker’s drinking beer.
MM: Though I do have this thing with IPAs where I think a pint is too much. By the end, I’m not interested any more. I like a glass of beer.
JB: Well, luckily you’re splitting this one with me.

100/1000: Brouwerij Keersmaeker “Mort Subite Blanche” White Lambic

MM: Let’s switch gears. Well. What a ridiculous glass for beer.
JB: Allow me to sip from this vessel.
MM: In a room full of beards and plaid shirts, don’t serve my beer in a wine glass even if that’s the appropriate way.
JB: I’ll hold it by the stem.
MM: Yeah, don’t warm it up.
JB: Wow. It has all the indicators of a sweet candy but then it has no sweetness when you drink it.
MM: Quaker peaches and cream oatmeal is the smell. But then it’s empty… You think it’s going to get more intense then it fades. That makes it better, actually. If it got sweeter, it wouldn’t be good. And the finish at the very end is woody, oaky, dry. It’s not sweet at all.
JB: But it’s not dry, exactly. Not like a wine is dry.
MM: The finish is almost flavorless.
JB: I don’t understand this beer. I don’t know what it’s for.
MM: I feel like you’ve said that before about lambics, but in this case I agree with you.
JB: With other Lambics, I’m starting to understand. They’re for savoring. But this isn’t.
MM: I could see this being good wth tobacco. With a cigar.

101/1000: Deschutes XXIII Double Anniversary Porter

MM: I can’t believe that this was the style of beer that turned me on to beer.
JB: This is intense beer.
MM: Yeah. I don’t like the aftertaste at all.
JB. Really high alcohol. Sweet. Caramel. Chalky.
MM: But the finish tastes like gasoline.  It would be funny to buy a round for everyone of a beer that everyone wouldn’t like. Not that this beer is that.  But you go in and buy a round, you don’t expect it to be the Double Anniversary Porter.

JB: Will you ever drink this beer again?
MM: No, but it makes me want to try the regular Deschutes Porter again.
JB: I’ve had it recently, It’s totally different from this. It’s nowhere near as sweet.
MM: I wonder why they did that.

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Where we and the deep beer nerds differ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/06/24/where_we_and_the_deep_beer_ner/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/06/24/where_we_and_the_deep_beer_ner/#comments Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:00:01 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/06/24/where_we_and_the_deep_beer_ner/ Continue reading ]]> Date: April 4, 2009
Time: 3:00 pm
Location: Saraveza
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin

J: Let’s start it up.
M [tastes]: This is so boring.
J: What is it?
85/1000: Schneider’s Wiesen Edel-weisse
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M: Nothing I say matters in this entire blog post, because I’m so stuffed up from allergies.
J: I will definitively rule upon this beer, then.
M: I want to compare this to Hamm’s. Just to see how dead my senses are.
J [tasting]: Mmm! You can’t smell? This has a strong and remarkable smell.
M: I can’t smell anything at all!
J: It’s herbal. It’s a got a piney taste, and a woody bitterness that lingers. You’re getting none of that?
M: It’s … cold. And wet.
J: You’re in no state to be doing this. Do you have a prescription?
M: No.
J: You need to go to the doctor. Have you ever heard of Allegra?
M: I tried Claritin. It doesn’t work.
J: I’ve never seen this beer in a bar before, but it has enough flavor, for someone whose taste buds are working, that I would seek it out.
M: I would say that I’m enjoying it.
J: But that doesn’t mean anything.
86/1000: Bridgeport’s Fallen Friar
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J: It’s a Belgian-style Tripel. I just tasted it, and I’d say it’s true to its type. But that’s a bland thing to say. How does it taste to you?
M: Oh, it’s different from the other.
J: I’m just impressed you can tell.
M: I’m really interested in what you have to say about this.
J: Very straight Belgian trippel, really. Citrusy, wheaty…
M: I wonder if the citrusy is what’s getting through. I wouldn’t have said that but I can perceive pungence, and something gets through. It’s an interesting way to “taste” beer.
J: I would say if this is cheaper, or more available, you should get this instead of an actual Belgian. It’s straight-up and solid. If it’s not, get a Belgian. Unless you’re all about stimulating the local markets in these challenging economic times.
87/1000: Laguntias “Undercover Shutdown” Double IPA
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M: What do you think of this?
J: I think it’s dark. I haven’t tasted it yet. But, dark for an IPA.
M: Doesn’t smell like anything. But I couldn’t get air through my nose. Oh, it’s sharp like a knife. God, I wish I coud taste it! It’s so weird to be able to feel it and not taste it!
J: The high alcohol, you could probably detect that. It’s like, a vapor effect, not a taste. Can you?
M: Yeah, I think so.
J: Beyond that, it’s like a milder version of the 120 Minute IPA.
M: I think that if I could taste it, I wouldn’t like it as much as I do now.
J: I like it more than the 120 Minute. It’s actually drinkable. But I need to say something more substantive about this.
M: I’m sorry to lay it all on you. I could talk about the carbonation comapred to the last one. If that’s helpful.
J: No.
M: This is the only one that leaves me with an aftertaste.
J: Can you taste that?
M: Well, an aftersense.
J: I’ll tell you, I don’t know when you’d drink this beer. Like, for a special tasting. For to experience something new. But I think they just made it because it’s sort of a prestige category of beer. But there are very few people who actually want to drink it. This is where we and the deep beer nerds differ. They celebrate this.

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We are so much better than them http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/06/we_are_so_much_better_than_the/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/06/we_are_so_much_better_than_the/#comments Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:52:25 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/06/we_are_so_much_better_than_the/ Continue reading ]]> Date: March 1, 2009
Time: 3:00 pm
Location: Mike’ house
Caleb Braaten
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin

82/1000: Allagash Tripel Reserve Belgian Style
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JB: I can’t help but think that this is Portland, Maine horning in on Portland, Oregon territory.
CB: Is there a rivalry between the two?
JB: No, because we are so much better than them.
MM: We think it’s probably more them being jealous of us.
CB: So there is! This is great.
MM: “Pour slowly into wide-mouthed glass.”
JB: No, more slowly!
MM: You can’t control it. It’s gravity. It says to toast to a special occasion. How about to the bad weather of New York, without which Caleb would have returned home by now?
JB: This is a Belgian trippel. I’ve had a lot of those.
MM: It’s good, it tastes like it’s supposd to.
JB: It’s less sweet and more bitter than a trippel usually is, though.
CB: I thought it was going to be a lot more sweet.
JB: I think if I’m buying an east coast trippel, the Ommegang stuff is better. You know, the Chimay wannabe.
CB: This is actually pretty easy to drink. I wasn’t expecting it to be. I expected it to be kind of gross.
MM: Me, too. And the label is so bad!
CB: It says that it’s appropriate as an apertif, and that makes me think it’s going ot be really sickly sweet.
JB: Is there a beer they’d refer to as a digestif?
MM: I want to find that one. So, with the packaging, there’s not actually a picture of a witch on it, but it seems like there would be. And that’s a problem.
JB: Classic beer label fiasco.
MM: Do you think it’s easy to make this kind of beer?
CB: I don’t know how to make any kind of beer.
MM: But I mean this isn’t distinctive in any way, maybe they’re just using the “Tripel” recipe that’s kind of standard.
JB: Could be. Let’s move onto our next beer.
83/1000: Gordon Ale, Oskar Blues Brewery, Lyons, Colorado
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CB: I’m excited for this, cause it’s in a can.
JB: We love the can.
CB: It’s very in vogue to drink from a can, which is fine with me.
MM: In some ways, I prefer it. I like a can of beer.
JB: But what the hell is the deal with this beer? You got a four-pack of cans for ten bucks?
MM: Ten-fifty.
JB: And it doesn’t really say what kind of beer it is.
MM: They make other canned beers that come in a six-pack, so this is weird.
JB: They say “If you knew Gordon Knight, this ale needs no explanation. If you didn’t, we’re sorry.” What is that supposed to mean?
MM: Is he a Nike guy?
JB: I don’t think he’s a Nike guy. But I’m left needing their explanation, and with their apologies.
MM: So, let’s drink, then look it up.
CB: It’s not as strong as I thought it would be.
JB: It reminds me of something from Dogfish Head. Maybe because it has that fresh-hoppy thing that they like to do.
MM: These are both high-alcohol. This one is 8.7% and the Tripel was 9%.
CB: Those high-alcohol beers will fuck you up. Normally, you go and have three or four beers. And three or four of these would fuck you up.
MM: So what’s the deal with Gordon Knight?
JB: I almost don’t want to know. Like, who cares about your faux mythology. But I’ll look him up. Realbeer.com is the first hit. They say he died in 2002 after a helicopter crash while fighting a forest fire.
CB: So he was just a dude?
MM: Not even a beer dude, just a dude.
JB: Uh, no. He did beer things.
MM: He’s a time traveler. He went back in time and invented beer.
JB: He was winning beer awards in the early nineties and hopping from brewery to brewery. Basically, he was a really good beermaker. But he didn’t make this beer. It is simply a tribute to him. I wonder if he would be pleased with it.
MM: Has this beer won any gold medals?
JB: No.
MM: I would have to say, then, that he wouldn’t. But this is good.
CB: I like it. I don’t think it has to be in a can.
MM: But it’s designed for camping. It says “pack it in, pack it out.”
JB: Okay, I went and did some research just now. It has, in fact, won several medals.
MM: Gold?
JB: Gold, Bronze, Beer of the Year, and others.
MM: Then it truly is a tribute to Gordon Knight. We should toast him with the remainder of the Allegash Tripel Reserve. Because it’s good for toasting.
JB: And this one isn’t.
CB: No, we shouldn’t even be drinking this out of glasses.

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Taste the Sea http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/03/taste_the_sea/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/03/taste_the_sea/#respond Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:36:00 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/03/03/taste_the_sea/ Continue reading ]]> Date: February 14, 2009
Time: 4:00 pm
Location: Mike’s house
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin

JB: “Kelpie”?
MM: It’s brewed with kelp. At least they’re not hiding it. Let’s crack it open.
JB: No, it might have a strong flavor. Let’s start with the weak beer.
80/1000: Iron City Beer, Pittsburgh Brewing Company
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MM: We’re having this because they won the Super Bowl. [toasting] To the Steelers!
JB: How much of this got drunk last Sunday?
MM: Oh, man. It was on special at Bridgetown Beerhouse.
JB: I meant in Pittsburgh.
MM: And all over the world!
JB: I’m not sure how well it’s distributed. I mean, in the last couple of years…
MM: It’s popped up as a competitor to Pabst. Pabst got too cool. It’s not a sweet as Pabst, which is nice.
JB: On the other hand, it hasn’t won a blue ribbon. This beer, it just goes right through. It’s totally inoffensive.
MM: I really like it when it’s really cold, but by the end of your first pint, after it has warmed, it’s just good enough. If it sits out a bit, it can be sort of rank. But other than the Super Bowl, when does one drink Iron City beer?
JB: When you play softball in the park. Take cans of it rafting.
MM: Why wouldn’t you just take Caldera?
JB: You don’t always want a strong beer, you want a drinking beer. It’s a summer thing. Or if you’re trying to drink for cheap. I bet you can just about always get someone to buy you an Iron City. Maybe not a microbrew, but someone will spot you an Iron City.
81/1000: Kelpie Seaweed Ale, Heather Ale, Scotland
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JB: Kelp in my beer, that’s what it was missing. That’s what’s been wrong with beer all these years.
MM: You probably didn’t know that prior to the 1850’s, there were many Scottish Ale houses …
JB: I can’t write all this, it’s boring. Get to the kelp part.
MM: …The fields were fertilized with seaweed, which flavored the barley.
JB: That’s kind of cool, actually.
MM: But they’re not doing that. They’re re-creating this effect by including fresh seaweed in the mash tun.
JB: Well, that’s not the same at all.
MM: Seaweed, they call this kind “bladder rack”, taken fresh from the water on the coast, is mashed in with the malted and roasted barley.
JB: But you could mash anything in there.
MM: You’re looking for a rich chocolate ale, which has an aroma of fresh sea breeze, and a distinctive malty texture.
JB: Thanks for all the expository reading. I find myself highly skeptical.
MM: Do you want me to tell you the ingredients?
JB: I don’t.
MM: They are as you might expect. Though they don’t mention it being “bladder rack” in the ingredients. I’m excited about the sea breeze aroma.
JB: Let’s try it. Do you get a sea breeze aroma?
MM: No, it just smells like beer.
JB: It just tastes like beer, too. A dark beer.
MM: I think we got a bad batch.
JB: By “bad” you mean not tasting like the sea?
MM: I can’t detect even a hint of bladder rack.
JB: Scotland has produced better than this.
MM: Name names, give me three.
JB: 1) Clynelish Scotch, 2) Groundskeeper Willie, 3) Plaid. All easily better than this.
MM: It’s a good idea, though! Picture the Scots out brewing their beer, and they notice there’s a lot of water around. They used that to make their distinctive brew. It’s like the Douglas Fir brandy that’s made here in Oregon.
JB: Which is terrible!
MM: But it’s a good idea.
JB: Idea, solid. Execution, uninspired.
MM: I would be happier with this if it tasted worse, and I could taste the seaweed.
JB: I don’t know why they didn’t do it the cool way they described. Fertilizing it with seaweed.
MM: They don’t need to, they have artificial fertilizers.
JB: They shouldn’t tell me about it, then. I didn’t know about that. They set themselves up and then knocked themselves down. I wouldn’t buy this again.
MM: I wouldn’t either.
JB: Maybe if there was an ocean-themed party.
MM: You might buy it based on the label, yeah. If you knew someone who collected seaweed or seaweed-related items, you might buy it for them.
JB: The novelty does not buy it many points in my book. It’s just a novelty name, in fact, since it doesn’t even come through in the flavor.
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They don’t care if you like it http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/30/they_dont_care_if_you_like_it/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/30/they_dont_care_if_you_like_it/#comments Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:41:10 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/30/they_dont_care_if_you_like_it/ Continue reading ]]> Date: January 28, 2009
Time: 9:00 pm
Location: Mike’s house
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin
Judah Switzer
Jona Bechtolt
Claire Evans
Marcus Estes

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72/1000: Red Tail Ale, Mendocino Brewing Company, California
JB: This isn’t like a ritualized thing, guys, we can just drink and talk about it.
ME: Don’t you raise a toast or something?
JB: Uh, no, but we should.
ME: To your health.
JS: It’s very fruity, this tastes like raspberries.
Jona: What is this?
ME: It’s the one with the rat tail.
JS: Red tail!
Jona: I like it. I don’t know why. I don’t know the difference between beers.
CE: It has an American Southwest vibe to it, a sagebrush thing.
Jona: Asshole.
CE: I mean it! Also with the picture of the eagle on the bottle.
Jona: She’s cheating! She’s reading off the bottle.
ME: I brought that beer, and the bird on the bottle made an impression.
JS: It’s a very clean beer… it clears right out. I could drink a lot of it, probably.
JB: I would love to try.
MM: What’s next?
JB: Let’s drink the world’s oldest.
73/1000: Weihenstephaner Original Premium
MM: The world’s oldest brewery made this!
Jona: Ooh, this is a white beer isn’t it? [Looks closer.] No. This smells fruity, I can tell that! Josh, get that in there!
ME: It’s very light, there’s not much to it at all.
CE: It tastes like a blueberry!
ME: It’s a feminine beer.
CE: Just cause it tastes like berry doesn’t make it feminine!
ME: It’s feminine in many ways. It’s light on its feet and it cares how old it is.
MM: This is kind of skunky.
CE: Is that a bad thing?
JB: It’s like when it gets that old musty smell from being exposed to light.
MM: I didn’t really like it. Did you?
JB: I’d like it in a picnic, in the summer.
CE: I like this one so much!
JB: Let’s crack Twin Peaks.
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74/1000: Snoqualmie Falls Brewing Company Wildcat India Pale Ale
CE: I brought this one!
[drinking]
Jona: Oh!
CE: Mmmm.
Jona: It has a lot of flavor.
CE: It is very intense tasting! It is very bitter!
Jona: I like the first parts, but the last part is bad.
JB: You guys aren’t going to like any of the rest of the beers.
CE: I’m not saying I don’t like it, but it doesn’t have the drinkability of the other beers.
Jona: Like that smoke beer we had at Saraveza, it has a food-like quality.
JB: I don’t think it’s bitter enough. It should be thinner and more bitter.
CE: What!
ME: It has an amateur homebrew vibe, it’s trying to be what an IPA should be.
JS: It has an amber ale quality.
Jona: You’re getting that food thing, too?
MM: He said “amber ale!” Not hamburger!
CE: Well, I didn’t love it. Maybe we should move on.
MM: Maybe the Alesmith IPA will be more to your liking.
75/1000: Alesmith IPA, San Diego
ME: The modern graphic design is not to my liking.
MM: How about “It’s pretty awesome”, from the bottle?
ME: What’s the deal? What are those, paddles?
MM: The graphic design of the beer community, it’s … uniquely retarded. In the literal sense, like its development has been retarded at some point.
ME: There’s a lot of Deadhead, Keep On Trucking vibe there.
JB: I got this because I went in there and the guy asked me what beer I like, and I said I’d been drinking a lot of IPAs. He said, I just got this in from San Diego, and you’ll like it.
ME: It doesn’t go to any extreme, nor is it delicate in any special way. It sort of failed in being a distinctive IPA.
JB: For me, it’s really citrusy, and really chalky. So it is extreme, maybe, but not in any way that you’d really go for.
CE: It tastes like Christmas tree!
JB: They put too much hops in it. Or they used fresh hops at the end. That piney, citrusy, chalky taste is the way fresh hops taste.
ME: Maybe I’m being too harsh, but I really do think it’s mediocre.
CE: Give Jona some more.
ME: Jona, let us know if it’s working.
Jona: Guys, Marcus is great. Let me tell you some things about Marcus.
CE: I don’t want more. It’s like, nibbling on a pine needle is fine, but this is like eating a branch.
76/1000: Sculler’s India Pale Ale, Skagit River Brewery, Washington
Jona: Josh, you might like this one, it’s bitter.
CE: How bitter is it?
JB: That’s answerable, actually. Beer nerds have something called International Bitterness Units. Any beer has a certain number of IBUs.
ME: But it’s subjective, how can that work?
JB: Well, maybe it’s like acidity or hotness, or these other things that can actually be measured.
[Claire looks it up and describes the process by which IBUs are determined.]
ME: It sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
JB: We haven’t talked about this beer. We’ve talked about bitterness.
CE: This one’s not piney. I do not like the design of the label. It’s the most drinkable IPA we’ve had though.
ME: This is better. What you’re after, I think, in an IPA, is the long period of aftertaste.
JB: This has that. It lingers.
ME: It is bitter, but it brings along a lot of flavors with it.
JB: I’ll make a note of this. I’ll see what else this brewery makes, and I’ll drink this again.
77/1000: Uber-Weisse, Baron Brewing
CE: Oh, what? This beer tastes crazy. You guys! Holy shit, what? Cheese beer!
JB: Ahh!!
CE: Why is it so sweet?
JB: I don’t think of it as sweet.
CE/JS [simultaneously]: It’s like molasses sweet.
ME: There’s something weird about the carbonation.
JB: It’s very low carbonation.
MM: It’s like when I ate this bad potato salad. It tasted fine, but it had a carbonated quality to it.
Jona: It’s like kombucha. God, it’s fucking sick, I hate it! This is what I imagine bile tastes like.
JS: It’s just so heavy.
CE: It’s like those Mexican lollipops that look like they’ll taste so good, but then they’re tamarind or something?
Jona: It’s not what you expect.
JB: But there are beers in this style, and, in that same way, they’re not what you’d expect in, but they’re better than this.
ME: The label throws me off, in that it’s ugly in a way that I like, but what are they going for?
MM: Well, it’s a beer for beer nerds. It’s not meant to be approachable. They don’t care if you like it.
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The expertise http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/05/the_expertise/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/05/the_expertise/#comments Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:47:55 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2009/01/05/the_expertise/ Continue reading ]]> Date: Monday, December 22 2008
Time: 2:00 PM
Location: Josh’s house
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin
Peter Kopp
Willow McCormick
Sarah Roberts

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Lazy Boy Brewing Belgian
Bison Organic Gingerbread Ale
Ninkasi Oatis Oatmeal Stout
Hair of the Dog Fred from the Wood
67/1000: Fat Tire Amber Ale (in a can!)
JB: Should we start with the can?
PK: Yeah.
MM: Yeah.
JB: A familiar beer, in a can.
PK: Totally more delicious than in the bottle.
JB: It’s not a beer I usually even like.
MM: I’m usually drawn to it when I see it on tap.
WM: I never choose it, I always think it’s too sweet.
JB: Do you think it’s different here in the can?
WM: I would need a side-by-side comparison.
JB: I think the consensus is: better. More what I want to drink. It’s a little thinner, simpler. There’s less aftertaste.
PK: I was talking to this brewer in Reno the other day and he said the recipe doesn’t really matter, it’s the temperature, and all these other conditions. This says that it’s “can-conditioned” and that could have something to do with the taste.
JB: That’s what I’m looking for from you, Peter! The expertise. Feel free to lay on the expertise whenever the urge strikes you.
PK: That might be it for one day.
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68/1000: Lazy Boy Brewing Belgian
JB: Is this just called “Belgian”? It says Belgian on his belly.
PK: Where’s this from?
JB: Lazy Boy is in Washington.
PK: Everett, Washington. It’s the 3rd or 4th biggest city in Washington.
MM: It smells a lot more interesting than the can beer.
JB: That’s the smell of Everett right there.
PK: The first time I went to a brewery tasting, they told us to take a big sniff of the beer and I actually stuck my nose in it and inhaled beer up my nose. It was really the full beer experience.
JB: It does smell like a Belgian.
MM: It tastes like an apple!
PK: It is really fruity.
MM: Tastes like a cider.
JB: How can a beer taste like a cider?
MM: It’s not too sweet, like a cider, though. Very fruity.
JB: Want to know how much fruit is in it? No fruit.
PK: It’s the yeast.
JB: I’m trying to think of what it would be tastiest with. Because I want to drink it again, but I’m not sure what with.
MM: The next time you’re hanging out with underage drinkers, and they want a cider, tell them, “No, guys. I’ve got something better.”
JB: The next time I’m hanging out with underage drinkers…? I think this would go really well with a nutty brown bread, like the Ken’s walnut bread.
MM: Willow, do you want some more?
WM: No.
JB: You don’t like it. How come?
WM: Well, now I’ll have another taste, and tell you. It just doesn’t taste like what beer is supposed to taste like! Maybe I’m a traditionalist.
69/1000: Bison Organic Gingerbread Ale
PK: I’m excited about this one. It could either be really good or weird and bad.
MM: This one looks dark like the bread you were talking about.
[we all smell it]
All: Whoa!
SR: It has a candy smell!
PK: Hmm, but it doesn’t taste like what it smells like.
JB: It’s not nearly as sweet as it smells.
PK: But the aftertaste is really sweet. It would go well with the fake cider right next to it.
SR: It tastes a lot better than it smells. I think the smell is distracting. The taste is just a dark beer. But the smell is overwhelming.
JB: I mean, I wouldn’t ever drink this again. It’s not so good that I can think of another time I’d want it.
PK: It’s a gimmicky beer, but I get it.
MM: I’m not a big fan of gingerbread, so maybe that’s what I don’t like about it.
JB: A beer named and brewed to be similar to a food you don’t like, it’s not likely to be a hit.
MM: I like it more than gingerbread, actually.
PK: I’m trying to figure out what kind of person would like this. A person who doesn’t like beer wouldn’t, because it is very beery.
MM: What kind of beer would it be if it didn’t have the gingerbread in it?
SR: A really dark brown ale.
JB: I think this beer is dumb. Because I don’t understand when I would ever buy it.
MM: You’re going on a sleigh ride. You’re tired of Jubelale.
JB: I’ll give you that. Next sleigh ride, this is my beer.
PK: I would drink this sitting on a bench in the park in the snow. You don’t have to be on a sleigh.
MM: In conditions in which a sleigh might be used, this would be a good beer.
JB: We’re going to settle into an oatmeal stout next, and that is going to feel like the beer for the season.
70/1000: Ninkasi Oatis Oatmeal Stout
JB: You ever known anyone named Otis? Seems really outdated.
PK: Maybe one of my grandfather’s friends. Man, this looks delicious.
JB: Should I snort some? Oh, it’s smooth. A little sweet, but very smooth.
MM: Not a lot of hops — “Just enough hops to balance the copious quantities of dark-roasted malts, and the addition of oatmeal, for a creamy smooth, quaffable stout.”
JB: Well, they nailed it in description.
PK: This is the best so far.
MM: It is creamy.
PK: It’s also quaffable.
JB: I’m going to quaff some right now.
PK: I’ve never used that term, because any times someone uses that term, it makes me uncomfortable. One time, my friend’s brother was drinking some wine and he said, “Oh, it’s quite quaffable.” And I just wanted to say, “Shut the fuck up.”
JB: Besides the quaffability factor…
PK: It’s sweeter than other stouts. Do you guys disagree?
JB: I don’t drink a lot of stouts.
PK: Do you quaff any?
MM: I’m going to start quaffing everything, no more drinking. Can you quaff water?
PK: It depends if it’s quaffable.
MM: We’re ruining this beer review.
JB: I usually drink beers that rely on hops more. This is farther out on the fringe of what beer even is.
PK: A lot of people say real beer doesn’t have hops.
JB: Who says that?
PK: Some brewers refuse to use hops, because it wasn’t originally used in beer. You’d have to drink it quickly, because it wouldn’t keep well without the hops.
SR: My turn. Well… it’s okay.
PK: What? Quaff some more!
SR: I like it, but I think I want stouts to have something else going on.
PK: Like coffee flavor or chocolate?
SR: Maybe I want to make a beer float with it.
JB: This would be the one. I’ve heard of people doing that, but it always sounds gross. But this would be the one, it’s got no distractions.
SR: If this were sweeter, it would be perfect. So a float…
JB: I think it’s plenty sweet as it is, but it would be fun to have as a float.
MM: I have to say I think I’m starting to get a little “affected” by the alcohol in these beers.
WM: Affected? Drunk?
JB: Is your judgment flagging?
MM: Not yet. I think I’m at the point where if I was at a party, I would slow down. But since I’m at a tasting, I’m going to maintain the same pace.
PK: Is this everybody’s favorite so far?
JB: It’s my favorite.
MM: I think the Lazy Boy is mine.
JB: That makes sense, because you like the tartness.
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71/1000: Hair of the Dog Fred from the Wood
JB: I have to admit, I bought this, and I don’t know much about it. Which is dumb, because with Hair of the Dog, there’s usually something to know.
MM: But the weird thing is they have another beer named “Fred” but it’s not from the wood. Ooh, it smells nice. In the realm of tartness. [tastes] Whoa, I can see why you didn’t want this the other night when we were watching the Blazers game.
PK: Super tart! What the hell is this.
MM: It’s syrupy.
JB: Yeah, that’s not appealing to me.
MM: I don’t like that part of it.
JB: What is that?
WM: It tastes like medicine.
JB: It’s your medicine. Drink up!
MM: I thought it would be even more tart, from the smell, like the lambics we’ve had. But it’s not.
SR: What kind of beer is it?
JB: Don’t think of it as a beer, just as an alcoholic beverage.
SR: Oh, it smells terrible, like a rotten orange. I do not like it. I get that strong alcohol reaction, like if I had drunk a shot of something. But that’s weird because it’s kind of light and sharp. It tastes fermented like if you’d left something out unintentionally.
JB: I’m enjoying drinking it, but would I get it again?
SR: I ate a grapefruit once, and it had been sitting out a really long time… It had a similar taste.
JB: Now that I’ve stopped drinking it, and then coming back to it, it does really taste like grapefruit juice.

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Like grapefruit, like spices, like weed http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/22/like_grapefruit_like_spices_li/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/22/like_grapefruit_like_spices_li/#respond Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:39:32 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/22/like_grapefruit_like_spices_li/ Continue reading ]]> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008
Time: 9:00 PM
Location: Saraveza
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin
Nancy Novak

MM [walking into Saraveza]: Is there football going on?
JB: Is it Monday? No, it’s Thursday. Sometimes there are Thursday games.
MM: Okay.
JB: Oh, it’s the Blazers! Fourth quarter! We’re up five! Cool. So what did you order?
MM: I don’t know.
JB: What did you ask him for?
MM: I said “your choice.” Now I forget which one it was. Was it the “Monschoff”? I remember it had an old timey name.
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65/1000: Pliny the Elder
JB: It was Pliny the Elder. What do you think?
MM: I like it. Is it, what kind of beer is it? Like an IPA?
JB: I don’t know, but I don’t think so. Okay, I looked it up. It’s a “double” or “Imperial” IPA.
MM [falsetto]: Called it!
NN: It’s very citrusy. It tastes like orange peels.
JB: Did you call it?
MM: I said IPA! Read the transcript! And it’s a double, it’s like I called it twice! I’m normally such an IPA weiner, but I like this.
JB: Why do you like it?
MM: I like the tangyness. The orange peel.
JB: The smell of a hoppy beer like this makes me so happy.
MM: The smell is grapefruit. It’s really strong. It smells like it would sting if it got in your eyes.
JB: Well, it might. Let’s find out.
MM: “Excuse me, sir, would you bring us an eyedropper?”
JB: We gotta stop talking about beer for a minute and watch this game. Okay, commercial break and we’re down by one. Let me have some more of that. “Pliny the Elder” … it comes in a bottle, too! I like its weird-looking label.
MM: The name is SO beer-nerdy. Can I try yours, Willow?
JB: What is it?
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66/1000: Rogue Younger’s Special Bitter
MM: Rogue ESB… Younger’s Special Bitter.
JB: So, YSB.
MM: It tastes like it has spices in it.
NN: I don’t get that at all. To me, it’s unremarkable. Not a typical ESB… I don’t know.
JB: It has a…
MM: Would you say nutty?
JB: It tastes roasted.
NN: I expected it to taste fuller.
MM: There’s a picture of fire on the bottle, but also of fish. I would say it’s an icon more than a picture.
JB: It’s more drinkable than I thought it would be. I could knock it back. So, let’s taste the Caldera Dry Hop Orange.
67/1000: Caldera Dry Hop Orange
MM: Have we had this before?
JB: Not on 1000 Beers.
MM: I want to say I don’t like the name. Because it makes me think of an orange soda, which preps my taste buds in a way that I am sure will be wrong. [He drinks.] On tasting, I feel like it’s the most complicated of the beers we’ve had this evening.
JB: I was going to say Pliny was, but then the aftertaste on this changed my mind. It’s like taking a ride. It goes a long way.
NN: It tastes like weed.
JB: Like what?
NN: Like weed! Tastes like weed, smells like weed. Aftertaste, not so much like weed. It tastes like weed! Also, I like it.
JB: Having never experienced marijuana, I can’t evaluate that statement, but maybe I would like it, based on this beer.
[Postscript: In a nail-biter, the Trailblazers won the game, on the back of Brandon Roy’s career-best performance, scoring 52 points.]

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I brought Budweiser! Because you’re back in America. http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/05/i_brought_budweiser_because_yo/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/05/i_brought_budweiser_because_yo/#comments Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:00:00 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/12/05/i_brought_budweiser_because_yo/ Continue reading ]]> Date: Wednesday, Dec 3, 2008
Time: 8:00 PM
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin
Jessica Roberts

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63/1000: Budweiser
64/1000: Pelican India Pelican Ale
MM: I brought Budweiser! Because you’re back in America.
JB: I just opened a Pelican IPA. That is also highly American. In a different way. Which should we drink first?
MM: Let’s enjoy the Pelican before we dip into the Bud.
JR: We haven’t had pizza in weeks!
MM: Mmm, that beer is good.
JR: We’ve been drinking exclusively Sol and Corona, so this tastes chewy. Oh my gosh, the hops!
MM: I’ve been drinking a lot of shitty beer.
JB: Why’ve you been drinking shitty beer?
MM: Hanging out with Nathan. Nathan drinks shitty beer.
JB: This beer tastes huge to me.
JR: Good, or too much?
JB: A little too much.
MM: I can’t even remember the last time I drank good beer. Drank with Nathan, drank at the Blazers game, that’s shitty beer. Thanksgiving I had some of that smoky beer.
JB: We’ve got to blog that beer.
JR: Is it actual Rauschbier?
MM: I don’t know what that is.
JB: I think it is. The German smoky beer.
MM: And it has the most amazing shitty label.
JB: We should talk about this beer we’re drinking a little.
JR: It’s kicking my ass. I don’t think I like it.
MM: I liked my first sip, but it’s not getting less intense.
JB: It’s not right with pizza!
JR: Maybe we should drink the Bud and come back to this.
JB: Let’s do it.
MM: So I wanted to buy some shitty beer for watching the Blazer game on TV. I could have gotten anything but Bud’s packaging is so great. Plus, it’s so American! And you can be proud of America now!
JR: This tastes so good to me.
MM: Uh oh, we lost our beer snobbiness… Josh, you’re our last hope.
JB: It’s sweet. It’s just so sweet! It could be good except for that.
MM: It’s great when it’s cold. Once it warms up, it has a foul taste, but when it’s cold…
JB: …my taste buds are so numb, I can’t tell the difference!
JR: This is all we’re going to say about Bud, huh?
JB: There’s no more to say.
MM: I’m nervous to switch back to the other one! I’m a Budweiser man from here on out. We’ll change the project to “1000 Budweisers.”
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JB: I’m going back to the Pelican. Oh, now it’s tasting good to me, still really intense though. It’s got a lot of citrus going on. Are you going to drink it?
MM: Let me cleanse my palate with this Budweiser. [sniffing] It smells really good! Caramely. I think it smells better than it tastes.
JB: I don’t feel like this beer is getting a fair shake in 1000 Beers.
MM: Yeah, maybe we’re out of sorts. Out of beer sorts. Out of whack, with beer. I think what people should take away from this is that it’s a pretty intense IPA.
JB: I don’t think that’s all they should take away. Having drunk this previously, I feel it’s an exceptional IPA.
MM: What do they say about it? [reading] “Enjoy the huge Cascade hop aroma, the subtle malty sweetness, and the spicy, citrusy flavor of this robust, gold-colored ale.”
JB: Yeah, that’s a great description.
MM: I agree.

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Beer Geek Breakfast http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/11/17/beer_geek_breakfast/ http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/11/17/beer_geek_breakfast/#comments Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:02:51 +0000 http://urbanhonking.com/1000beers/2008/11/17/beer_geek_breakfast/ Continue reading ]]> Date: Tuesday, Nov 16, 2008
Time: 10:30 AM
Mike Merrill
Josh Berezin

62/1000: Mikkeller
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JB: Before we even drink this I want to comment on the “Beer Geek Breakfast” thing. It seems to unnecessarily limit the audience. It’s like having something that’s the “beer for moms.” That might help you a little bit with moms, but it ensures that no one else is ever going to drink it.
MM: It’s the “Diet Coke” dilemma. They had marketed Diet Coke so strongly to women, they had to invent a new product for men. On the other hand, maybe production is so small, they only need beer geeks to drink it.
JB: But there are tons of beers like that, that are beer-geek-only. But they don’t need to say it.
MM: I bet it’s the American importers, not the producers, that tagged it that way.
JB: So, tasting it now, it’s pretty sweet, not really different from a regular stout. Does this have “coffee” and “oatmeal” in it, or are those just the overtones they’re talking about?
MM: It says it’s a mix of a coffee and oatmeal stout. I’ve had “oat” stouts before.
JB: Like Samuel Smith.
MM: I have been drinking actual coffee, so it’s very hard to detect a coffee flavor. Even a very coffee-heavy beer won’t measure up to actual coffee.
JB: I’ll give them that this is a decent breakfast beer, if you’re going to have beer for breakfast.
MM: I won’t give them that “there’s a new taste adventure with every sip.”
JB: I experienced no adventures in the drinking of this beer. Wait, here on the label, it says “oatmeal stout brewed with coffee.” I’m going to have a sip of coffee.
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MM: This makes me think we should start a 1000 coffees blog.
JB: It’s somewhat comparable to coffee, but drinking it back to back with coffee really highlights the sweetness of the beer.
MM: It makes my coffee taste a lot better!
JB: Now you have poured coffee into your beer. I wouldn’t have done that.
MM: The coffee smell it has now is good, though. I want you to try this. I propose that it tastes better.
JB: It cut the sweetness. And I like the temperature that it’s at now, too.
MM: It’s way better.
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